Tuesday, November 28, 2006

 

San Francisco values

Kos has a post on what Bill O'Reilly likes to refer to as "San Francisco values." As somebody who was born in and raised in and around SF, I'd like to know what these values are. In the meantime, Kos has some ideas of his own.
Since O'Reilly boycotts everything he hates, I look forward to his boycott of all Bay Area-origin products. Same with every conservative who bashes San Francisco and the Bay Area. So no iPods or anything Apple. No HP computers. No Google. No Yahoo. No eBay. Those conservative bloggers using Blogspot, MovableType, or TypePad? Sorry. Those products are Bay Area-based.

Also no Adobe or Macromedia products. No computers, either, since most run on AMD or Intel. No tax preparation using Intuit products. Cancel your Netflix subscription. Cancel your TiVo subscription. Remove your Network Associates or Symantec virus protection software from your computer. Unplug your Netgear wifi router.

Don't wear Levis (or any kind of jeans), Gap, Banana Republic, Old Navy, or buy your kids Gymboree. Avoid LeapFrog learning toys. Boycott Pixar movies. Boycott any movie using George Lucas' ILM special effects shop. Stay away from Treos and other Palm devices. Don't let Charles Schwab manage your portfolio. Don't bank at Wells Fargo.

Actually, I'm all for not banking at Wells Fargo, but that's a story for another thread.

Particularly amusing is O'Reilly's reference to Nancy Pelosi as a "far-left secular-progressive bomb thrower." Bomb thrower?

The Media Matters article linked above contains a local angle:

In 1996, Rep. Frank Riggs (R-CA) attacked his Democratic challenger Michela Alioto over her "San Francisco values." According to a July 18, 1996, Roll Call article, "In one particularly pointed attack, Riggs questioned whether Alioto's opposition to the bill to ban federal recognition of same-sex marriage represented 'North Coast values' or 'San Francisco values.' " Riggs defeated Alioto.

Photo source.


Comments:
Damn, we wouldn't have hippies either.
Or the Grateful Dead. Or Timothy Leary. Or Wavy Gravy. Or Rolling Stone Magazine. Or Howard Hesseman. Or The Dead Kennedys. Or Rice-A-Roni. Or Bechtel Corporation. Or Planet Out. Or Beach Blanket Babylon. Or Barry Bonds. Or Joe Montana. Or Willie Mays. Or Carol Doda. Or Joe Carcione, The Green Grocer. Or Robin Williams. Or Dana Carvey. Or Joe Dimaggio. Or Gordon Getty. Or O.J. Simpson......oh, nevermind
 
Gee beaver. Golly Wolly. I thought the Democrats came up with the San Francisco values Schtick.
 
Any truth to the rumors that Nick Bravo was Arcata city Councilwoman Harmony Groves's lover in '04 while they were attending HSU?
 
3:09 AM .......... don't know but I'll believe it if you will?!
 
Shows the difference in what happens when a natural port is developed. Look at all those industries supplying jobs. Then look at Humboldt County and the Prog agenda..
 
Hail the capitalists! When I get to Humboldt I'm gonna get in good with Arkley and Stillman. Gonna turn this rural shithole into a mecca of industry and prosperity!

Progressives be dammned!
 
The Eureka Reporter just picked up O'Reilly's column. Priceless.
 
The Republicans and Libertarians are taking a page from Cobb's playbook. They are merging in order to make a clean sweep in '08 to purge the Humboldt political machine of people such as Chesbro, Groves, and others.
 
Greg - go back to your own blog.

I am a bay area transplant too Eric and Pelosi is a jerk.
 
Steve - SF hasn't been a port in years. If you haven't noticed, the waterfront consists of offices, tourist traps, and outrageously expensive boutique shops. The imports get dropped off across the bay. Thank Diane Feinstein actually, who never met a highrise she didn't like.
 
Greg's family was in SF since the 19th century. His great-grandfather, a firefighter, perished in the 1906 earthquake.

I don't believe you anonymous posters would be so nasty, if you put your name on your post. How cowardly to hide behind your anonymous posts.
 
Carol Ann, If the truth must be known, I come from a long line of Mous ancestors. From Germanic descent, we arrived in the new country in the early 1700's. Mostly farmers and blacksmiths by trade, we made our way way West during the Sooner land grabs and later across the Rockies during the California Gold Rush. My great grandfather Claus Mous came to Humboldt to grow potatoes in the Eel River valley. Then the largest agricultural crop in the area. My great Uncle Anony was the writer in the family and I was named after him. Realize, there are a great number of writers named Anonymous. They practically litter the literary world. It's quite a common name. Sort of like Smith or Jones or Chan in China. Now, the Coward side of my family, Well, that's a whole other thread. Talk about nasty.
 
Oh Carol Ann you snooty eliist ...... person. Cowardly! Oh you really hurt me on that one. Anon posters, for the most part, bring quite a bit to the blog. If Eric didn't allow anon posters his blog would be pretty boring with just his views and the likes of you and Greg. Some people have lives and want to share their view, or opinion, or rant. In such a small community if you, or your name/job is known and you posted a statement/opinion someone like Nick Bravo would cause problems.

You ever wonder why your blog doesn't get any action? If you don't like anon bloggers only read your blog and Buhne. Go snivel somewhere else.
 
8:50 - We live out where the Mous clan farmed spuds. The country Mous's.

9:39 - It's your type that give the Mous clan a bad name.

Seriously - even the newpaper doesn't allow people to spout their opinions unless they have the balls to identify themselves. Stand up for yourself. At least use a fake name, so we can tell which anon is being so nasty. Or are you the same person? A lot of the writing seems familiar.
 
Right on, Carol an Greg. Anonymous posters are no-good yeller cowards when they hit and run with their sleazeball put-downs of people in the community actually doing something.
 
Two points.
First, the post-port SF era still shows that a) a port can make a lot of money and b) there is a future after all those big messy ships go away, once a base of business is built.
Second, Kamala Harris, SF District Attorney, just hired Rob Wade, late of the Humboldt then Napa DA's office. Pushed out of Humboldt, sought after elsewhere.
Does that sound like anyone else, or everyone else, at the DA's office. SF values indeed.
 
Oh my God, Steve and the Conners are agreeing! That's it. I will now be known as MousAnony. My forefathers, please forgive me.
 
The list of contributions San Fransisco has made to the rest of the country has a serious omission: AIDS.
 
First, the post-port SF era still shows that a) a port can make a lot of money and b) there is a future after all those big messy ships go away, once a base of business is built.

SF is the richest city now, primarily because of the dot come revolution, although it's long been the commerce gateway from the Pacific Rim.

Second, Kamala Harris, SF District Attorney, just hired Rob Wade, late of the Humboldt then Napa DA's office. Pushed out of Humboldt, sought after elsewhere.
Does that sound like anyone else, or everyone else, at the DA's office. SF values indeed.


Too bad they didn't re-election Terrence Hallinan.
 
Terence Hallinan? You are either
ironic or stoned, if not both.
Hallinan was an unmitigated
disaster. Unless of course, one is a defense attorney. And you are, of course. Well, there we go.
Let's look for DA's who are good for the defense. Hallinan, sure.
Anyone else come to mind, hmmmm?
Someone else Eric likes? Hallinan and oh darn it's on the tip of my tongue.
 
The list of contributions San Fransisco has

Actually, AIDS originated in Central Africa, but don't let the facts get in the way of hyperbole.
 
When it suits San Fransiscans to claim the first AIDS cases in North America appeared in their city they never miss the opportunity. When it reflects poorly on them, there will always be apologists like you Erik to deflect the facts. Don't let bias get in the way of your own hyperbole.
 
I'm not getting your point. Are you saying that the disease didn't originate in Central Africa?

And actually, the first official diagnosis in North America of what would later be termed AIDS was made in Los Angeles, not SF - for what that's worth. However, HIV has been detected in tissue of people who died as early as 1959, including a child who died sometime in the 1960s.
 
We should have known that you also consider yourself to be an expert on AIDS. You never disappoint Erik.
 
Having watched a number of friends die from the disease, I do know something about it.
 
Some of us are anonymous for fairly good reasons. Just suck it up, non-anons. If the comments are stupid then nobody cares and if their on point it shouldn't matter who made them.

Yes, there be trolls in them thar woods, but ignore the trolls and respond to the thinkers.

Also, I'm pretty sure 'maus' is being funny, some folks need to grow a sense of humor. Besides, this is the tamest comment thread in days.

-JMan (decidedly anonymous)
 
"SF is the richest city now, primarily because of the dot come revolution, although it's long been the commerce gateway from the Pacific Rim."

Eric, are you dumb? Dot coms made SF rich? You ever read American history? Ever hear of the Gold Rush and San Francisco? Ever hear of Sea Ports becoming the centers of industrialized national wealth precisely because they are ports?

Anything to win an argument, eh? I will be announcing when our first Conflict Addicts Anonymous meeting will be held. We expect you there.
 
The gold rush was over a century and a half ago. The ports have mostly been closed since the 1970s. SF is richer than LA, Portland, Seattle, and most port cities. It was not that rich in the early 1990s. There's an excellent article on topic called "How the Internet Ruined San Francisco" and it details the gentrification that has taken place over the past decade. As the bay Guardian once said, "SF may become the world's first economically cleansed city."
 
Here we get to live out "How refugees from the Bay Area ruined Humboldt County by trying to Berkeley-ize our towns. Arcata was the first one, and now the plan is to make Eureka the second one, next Fortuna, and eventually all our towns into little Berkeleys filled with nice Progressives who are ever-so p.c. and anti-corporate.
 
True enough Steve - and ironically aided by the very development they're opposing.
 
Carol Ann said...
Greg's family was in SF since the 19th century. His great-grandfather, a firefighter, perished in the 1906 earthquake.

I don't believe you anonymous posters would be so nasty, if you put your name on your post. How cowardly to hide behind your anonymous posts.

8:19 AM

WELL, AHEM, CAROL ANN, It's good to know that YOU and the WHOLE "ANN" family always post your FULL NAMES when blogging.

Unlike us cretinous Anonymous posters, who must be, like, so low the the ground that we look up to the salamanders, YOU STAND UP TALL AND COURAGEOUS, posting your remarks under the proud given name of "CAROL" and the proud ancestral name of "ANN."

I would call you a hypocritical witch, but that would be a euphemism.

Remember, O Blameless One, every body who posts messages here ALSO HAS ANCESTORS.
 
You Connerses are like the British. Very upset with us Colonials for standing behind trees and picking you off with our long Anonymous rifles.

Were the Conners and Ann ancestors also Tories? Do you people still wear bright red uniforms and tall white hats?

You make awfully good targets.

Maybe you would be happier lving in Canada, where all good Tories went after you lost the Revolutionary War (which MY ancestors, Ha Ha, helped our nation to win.)
 
Hopefully Team Arkley will with the help of Stillman and others will be able to turn Humboldt into a prosperous, industrious seaport area just like the SF bay area is now.
 
4:30, Carol is (ahem) sought after by both local chapters of the Daughters of the American Revolution, and can trace her family back to the pilgrims. My family has revolutionary roots as well. The patriotic tradition in our family goes back a long way. Our forefathers fought for our rights to stand up and be heard -- and known. Your anonymous whispers smack of the intrigue at the king's court that brought George III down...
 
Well, Mouanony, You have me laughing! Thanks for the humor. I am a little touchy, since I just got back from Santa Cruz after my child was in a car accident Sunday. All are OK, but shook-up. I wrote about it on Greg's list.

If you want to call me an elitist, that is your business. Yes, I am in the process of joining one of the local DAR Chapters as My Great Grandmother was a member. Her daughter, my great Aunt Rachel, quit the DAR when Marion Anderson was not allowed to sing because of her skin color. I am a patriotic American with family that has fought in every war from Vietnam back to Plymouth. Also, on my mother's side we go back to the original Jamestown Colony with Edward Spaulding, who with a handful of people survived the Jamestown Masscare, moving to Barbados then to the Massachusetts colony.

For those of you that read my essay on Greg's List of how I found out I was related to the Bush clan back to Experience Mitchell of Plymouth Colony, you will know my roots are early American. It is not something I am proud of: I think Dubya has to be the worse President ever. I wrote to him several times trying to plead with him to change "His Course". Ironically, I got back an autographed photograph and letters thanking me for my "kind words".

There is money made by war. Think of all the money made by those investing in bombs, guns, and steel. I wrote Dubya a 5 page letter on CodePink paper telling him how furious I was about this war of lies. War should not be about making money, but many are getting rich. It is digusting.

If you look at Blogspot it has my last name, which is Conners, as Greg is my husband. My maiden name is Howe, though as far as I know, no relation to General William Howe of the English. Now remember, families were fighting families during the Revolutionary War.
So there! Peace.
 
Yeah - carol ann - get back in the TV with the poltergeist.

You and Greg are elitist snobs. I totally agree with 8:50, 9:39 4:09 and 4:30.

back under your rocks!

I had a grandmother that was in the DAR and can trace my family back to england farther than you can imagine, but my mother and sister don't have the ego to get themselves in the DAR nor blog about it like a narcissist.

Boo!
 
Boh-hoo to you too, I can trace back to at least the 9th century.

I looked up elitist in the dictionary and it is not an insult, if you are trying to insult me. I don't live under the rocks but on a hill, Thank you. You better start researching your "coward" side of your family, anon.

Get use to us! We are not "going away"!
 
My Haikus from Humboldt Herald:

Writing on the blogs
New American pastime
Communication

Reading and writing
This is our Freedom of Speech
Just don't say too much
 
Anonymous insults
Now names us "elitist snobs"
Anon is jealous
 
Are YOU an elitist?
 
Hopefully Team Arkley will with the help of Stillman and others will be able to turn Humboldt into a prosperous, industrious seaport area just like the SF bay area is now.

Was it Home Depot that made SF what it is?
 
You Connerses are like the British. Very upset with us Colonials for standing behind trees and picking you off with our long Anonymous rifles.

You've GOT to be kidding!
 
Odd, most Dot-Coms live in the more "uptight and right-winged" Palo Alto/Mountian View area. That being said, the Port of Oakland is quite busy, South San Fran is proud to move cargo, but San Fran.... it has a port that works still?

FYI the iPod is overpriced and a piece of crap.
 
Can't believe all this about ancestory. Who cares. But, if we are playing elitists, all that are not Cali-born, go away. I'm fourth generation. But, again, who cares.

Now, for all elitists snobs, the Truckers Christmas Parade is the 9th. Want to see y'all there. Arts Alive Eureka this weekend. Accident Gallery, a little something surely to offend someone.

buy art.
 
I saw the Eureka's Trucker's Christmas Parade last year or the year before and it was such a disappointment from the one I saw in Fortuna about four years ago. Go to the Fortuna one if you want to see the best holiday decked out trucks. They are a beautiful sight to behold, a true "native" art form.
 
Gee, seems like Carol Ann has gotten her snobby knickers in a bunch..

"I can trace back to at least the 9th century."

Hell, so can my family and has but I don't feel the snobby need to blog about it.


Get a life lady.
 
uh..you just did blog about it.
 
I have a wonderful life, Thank You! Every day is a GIFT. Peace be to you, anon.
 
Carol got a sense of humor and nobody else got the joke.

Bravo miss, there's hope for you yet!

-JMan
 
Nope, hate to disagree JMan.....no GIFT there.
 
Thanks, JMAn. We got to keep our sense of humor! And tommorrow is Thank Jah/Jahdess It's Friday!!! Gotta go to the office and work, though.
 
9th century, eh? Wait, if I am looking at my family geneology journals and following the family trees correctly....that means......ohmigod....Carol Ann and I are kin! We survived the Black Plague...we can definitely survive Virginia Bass as our new Mayor. Just as a little side note....Carol and Greg, if you live in Loleta you are probably living on land that was settled by my family. (Europeans, that is) Yes, a descendent of Seth Kinman here. Clough Road, also from our family.

Oh, wait....I'm sorry everyone....I thought this was the Humboldt history blog. So sorry.

Dikeman sucks! The Kid had meth in his system! Bonnie wins....noooooo! Heraldo hates cops! I love Nick Bravo! Er, did I miss anything?

Sorry, Eric. Jman and I were in Redway yesterday and threatened to come and see you at your office and say..."Hi, we're two of your anonymous posters" Thusly, thanking you for your efforts. Next time, we are down in your neck of the woods, we just may.
 
Our forefathers fought for our rights to stand up and be heard -- and known. Your anonymous whispers smack of the intrigue at the king's court that brought George III down... 6:25 AM

I will concede, Greg, that in matters of "smack" you are probably my superior. Anon.
 
My wit runneth over. Anon.
 
Well, maybe all us bloggers, related or not, should hoist a brew at the Gilded Rose!
 
None of my family was in the country at the revolution. In fact, I'm pretty certain that none of my family was in the country before the turn of the 20th century. Both grandfathers and both great grandmothers were immigrants although one of them might have come over as a child in the 1890s.

I know that my family chose the wrong side in the war of the roses and left Scottland with the other Catholics ended up in Denmark. Supposedly the Kirk lineage goes back to the 9th century as well. We don't have information about any of the other branches dating back any further than a 150 years or so.

But I keep getting junk mail from outfits claiming to have done some "preliminary research" and discovered that my ancestors fought in the American revolution. I feel like writing back to them and telling them that it couldn't have been any of the Kirks, and if it was any other branch it would have been as an Irish conscript with the British or a Hessian mercenary.
 
"We don't have information about any of the other branches dating back any further than a 150 years or so."

Eric, check out "GenCircles.com"

With a little luck, you may find ancestors there. It's a good place to try. Easy and free. (No cost unless you want the premium service, which is a convenience, not a necessity.)
 
Thanx! I'll give it a try.
 
Eric V. Kirk said...
"You Connerses are like the British. Very upset with us Colonials for standing behind trees and picking you off with our long Anonymous rifles.

You've GOT to be kidding! 9:23 AM "

No, Eric, It was a genuine historical parallel. (Did you notice that I spelled "parallel" correctly?)
 
Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link



<< Home

This page is powered by Blogger. Isn't yours?

Free Website Counter
Free Web Site Counter

Cost of the War in Iraq
(JavaScript Error)
To see more details, click here.
Click for www.electoral-vote.com