Tuesday, August 28, 2007

 

Richard asks a great question

Where exactly is "Northern California?"

Comments:
Way to copy Richard. Is this what you messy little paper weasels do when you lack imagination? Steal other peoples hopes and dreams and make them your own?
 
Isn't it more important right now whether you are a Mateelian or a PPeelian?
 
1:39 is unfamiliar with blogging. The Parlance just tipped its hat to Richard and sent him more traffic.
 
I would say north of King Salmon.
 
Actually the political division of the state is really east/west. The Coast from Orange County north is blue. The further one goes east the redder the the state gets. The north south axis is really the north/central/south..the north starts at the Sacto/SFO line.
 
Eric, when you grew up and lived in the Bay Area....what did you call this area up here?

Just curious what people from the Bay Area call this part of the state.
 
God you guys are idiots. First of all, California is highly regionalized. The Bay Area is the Bay Area. There is the northcoast (Marin and up), North valley (sac and up), the remote plains (Modoc area), North sierra nevada (North of I-80), Tahoe area (Tahoe), Sacramento area or mid valley (Auburn, through davis and vacaville), south valley (Stockton and Fresno), mid coastal (Santa cruz through santa barbara), LA basin (All the trash), San Diego (South of orange county), Southern Sierra nevada (South of tahoe) and finally the Mojave wastelands and then the Baja.

Dividing it into North and south is just too simplistic, but If I had to do it I would say SoCal is the 9 most southern counties and the rest is Norcal.
 
California is being ripped of by the Federal Government to the tune of 50+ BILLION dollars per year. Here are some links for a free California Republic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californian_independence

http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balance2003.htm

http://www.alternet.org/story/14531

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Free_california_flag.jpg
 
Just curious what people from the Bay Area call this part of the state.

Oregon.
 
People in Santa Cruz like to say they live in Northern California. People in San Luis Obispo will argue they are NOT part of southern Cal, rather they are the Central Coast- as will the Santa Barbarans, which are what-an hour north of LA?

As someone who grew up in Eureka and having family in Marin and spending a lot of time there, I've always thought of northern California as north of Santa Rosa, the Bay Area as it's own thing, and south of San Jose as southern Cal. I guess I never thought much of anything east until the last 20 years or so.

I guess I think 3:08 has it, although there's no reason to insult anyone here by calling them names. Although I'm coming to realize that it is part of how people relate on these blogs. Pretty rude really.
 
EkoVox said..."Eric, when you grew up and lived in the Bay Area....what did you call this area up here?
Just curious what people from the Bay Area call this part of the state."

Us Bay area natives called this area something like "the redwoods up north."
 
Northeast California is a place unto itself. It resembles northern Idaho. I was buying fishing tackle at a store in the Modoc. The one armed fellow behind the counter was talking to a pudgy little wannabe in full camo and face paint. I overheard spanky tell the clerk "We need to show the women how to use the machine gun". Another time I swear I ran into several folks with gill slits over in Oroville. Oroville does remind one of H.P.Lovecraft stories. Hey Toto we're not in Malibu anymore.
 
When you think about it we actually have much in common with Southern California. Yes, they are more plastic and image oriented. But politically we have much more in common with socal than say, the southern US. California is a progressive liberal secular state, I can't really say that about the rest of the country.

There are water issues, but none that cannot be overcome. Southern California just needs to engage in water recycling like they're doing in Australia. What is holding up progress on water issues? The federal government.

Nationally the Democratic party, our states dominant party, has done us very little favors. During Clinton we saw major federal spending cuts here. What used to be a 3-5 billion dollar annual subsidization of the federal government by California taxpayers has ballooned to 50 billion annually. That includes defense spending and social policy spending!

What could California do with 50 billion dollars if it were its own country? It could provide tax cuts. Or provide universal health care to all citizens. Or boost spending on education, roads, etc.

Keep reading about the fleecing and bilking of California taxpayers and how little power we have federally and you will begin to see why California needs to leave the union and do it soon.
 
What about the Colorado river? If California were its own country, would we get our fair share of that water, or would it lead to North America's first water war?

Sacramento is also not a very grand capitol. Its kind of a scuzzy and unimpressive city to house a national capitol.

Also, we would probably have to drastically change the manner in which a California Republic operated. Would we keep the legislature as is, or replace it with unicameral legislature? Continue to elect cabinet level positions or allow our president to appoint? Or replace the whole thing with a parliamentary system?

California would also need a very open immigration policy to continue growth and get talented people into the tech sector and farm labor for the valley.
 
Norcal

There is a term that needs to go away. Reminds me of "Frisco" or "Sacto".

But, if you did away with the Nor-Cal vernacular, an entire window sticker and sweatshirt industry would go away too.
 
President Gavin Newsom? Hmmm...
 
Sacramento is not North Valley. I grew up in Sacramento and the first time I heard the term was when I moved to Humboldt County and saw North Valley Bank. Sacramento residents refer to their area as the Sacramento Valley.
 
Wait...
All this time I thought SoCal was actually South-East!

We are talking about magnetic north, right?
 
Eric, when you grew up and lived in the Bay Area....what did you call this area up here?

I don't remember a general name for the north coast. Whenever my family was coming up to Sonoma, Mendo, Humboldt, or Trinity for a visit we would just say "up to the country." I always felt like I was in "the country" once we reached Novato.
 
If we were our own country we could invade Mexico for cheap pharmaceuticals and mas mota!
 
"Anonymous said...Sacramento is not North Valley. I grew up in Sacramento and the first time I heard the term was when I moved to Humboldt County and saw North Valley Bank. Sacramento residents refer to their area as the Sacramento Valley.
Tue Aug 28, 06:37:00 PM"


In my experience, it was always called "the valley," sans the word "Sacramento."

I've never heard the phrase "North Valley" to describe anything in the Sacramento area, even the north part of the valley. I don't know where that comes from.
 
just north of Crescent City
 
Well that acomplished a lot
 
Bite me.
 
Garberville is the capitol of Baja Oregon.
 
I like the Giants. They're swell. And the Midgets aren't bad either.
 
Baja humbug. The Titantrops are better'n the Giants any day.
 
Someone told me that if you draw a line from west to east on a map of California with an equal number of Californians on each side of the line, that line would be just a little north of Los Angeles.
 
That would surprise me. I'd have assumed you had to cut into LA a little bit. But then, the Bay Area has grown dramatically over the past couple of decades.
 
Here's a thought...

Crescant City is at about 41*46N latitude.
While San Ysidro (city at the Mexican border) is about about 32*32'N latitude.

That would put the mean central line of latitude at 36*45N. Or somewhere around Chowchilla, Merced, Santa Cruz, Bishop, San Jose.

SF and Yosemite Park would be north. On the south-side would be Fresno and Kings Canyon Park.

that's what the math tells me anyhow.
 
SoCal begins at Santa Rosa, but the line is moving steadily north. Wont be long til we're just another suburb of LA.
 
It's been amazing to me how much more a part of California we've become in recent years--ballooning house prices we can't pay, early retirers outbidding growers for backwoods hideouts, our distinctive folkways revving up for the new age--so I'm with above. The line's moving north.
 
It's been amazing to me how much more a part of California we've become in recent years--ballooning house prices we can't pay, early retirers outbidding growers for backwoods hideouts, our distinctive folkways revving up for the new age--so I'm with above. The line's moving north.

Baby-boomers are retiring down south. Call them "equity refugees."
 
Everytime a smiling stranger greets you with a hearty "Ola!" you know Humboldt County has moved a little farther south.
 
"Ola"?

What language is that?Must be old redneck talk.
 
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