Saturday, February 16, 2008

 

Estelle kicks off her campaign

The Eureka Reporter has some comments from her about Rodoni, PALCO, the need for local redundant broadband, and the general plan.
“I am the candidate willing to listen to people and also provide solutions,” Fennell stated in an e-mail response to questions from The Eureka Reporter.

Fennell moved to the North Coast 24 years ago and spent the past 17 and a half years working as news director at Redwood Community Radio station KMUD, before stepping down in August.

Fennell, who said she has a good working knowledge of the issues and realities of the Second District, is drawing on her many years of experience covering issues at the local and regional level and through meetings and working with the management and staff of numerous agencies.

And she isn’t shy about pointing out what she sees as one of the district’s problems: Rodoni.

Fennel claims Rodoni seems unable or unwilling to be a representative who can make county government work better for people who are trying to build or attract new business and solve existing problems.

“The most important issue facing the Second District is our local economy,” Fennell stated.

You can comment on the article at the ER site.


Comments:
Will Estelle just be a mouthpiece for the marijuana growers ?

Isn't she the one that would broadcast the location and direction of the cops, specifically the drug cops????
 
Not specifically. the CAMP activities have always been reported on KMUD when they happened by whomever was in the studio when the report came in. Kind of like reporting the weather. CAMP has never been discreet or secretive about its activities.
 
Heard her again on KMUD on Friday. I did not hear one solution to any problem that was discussed,only repeats of "people are very concerned". Again, what ya gonna do?
 
Visit the link to the Eureka Reporter that Eric provided. She outlines a few of her thoughts.


June is a long, long, way off.
 
"Rodoni seems unable or unwilling to be a representative who can make county government work better for people who are trying to build or attract new business...".

Could she be a bit more specific about that? I would expect the reality to be the opposite. Granted, I might be using stereotypes here, but the Left tends to be the ones who try to keep businesses from coming here.
 
But Eric why report the movements of CAMP? To warn criminals. They do this more than just during CAMP seaoon. This kind of early warning system for criminals doesn't exist in other communities.

At a minimum that makes the station and the DJ or reporter a shirttail co-conspirator in the crime. Yes growing and selling marijuana is still a crime, even in Humboldt even if you don't like the laws.
 
Is something bad happening to our local economy, Estelle?

Is there an incurable pot leaf blight strain threatening to change the economic landscape as we know it?
Price of diesel breaking the backs of 'homesteaders'?
Grower supply outlets suffering from sub-prime fertilizers?

Pardon-moi, but this sounds like the all too familiar CofC drumbeat of "poor pitiful us".

Hey, look who her advisor(s) are!

It all fits.
 
How wise is it for her to use her partner as campaign manager, I wonder? Of course I guess it is kinda working for the Clintons.
As to the CAMP reports, they are part of the community safety and awareness broadcasts, which also include alerts about drastic weather conditions, dispelling of rumors, and other useful information. Personally I like to know, when I leave for town, if there is a huge convoy of trucks just down the dirt road carrying armed dudes.
 
Does she have a website yet? Where is her list of supporters? Clif has swept the Doctors in Fortuna. Who has Estelle got? At least Clif's campaign is realistic enough to have a $50,000 goal. Estelle has raised $900 -it's going to take a lot more than that no matter how grassroots her campaign is.
 
But Eric why report the movements of CAMP? To warn criminals. They do this more than just during CAMP seaoon. This kind of early warning system for criminals doesn't exist in other communities.

Because they're civil libertarians who believe that CAMP is an illegitimate government action enforcing oppressive and unnecessary laws.
 
I am a Clendenen supporter but I think a lot of people are attacking here for the wrong reasons. There is a local economy outside of pot and it does suffer from lack of consideration in the larger county. Also, the CAMP reports are the equivalent of hostile troop movement reports in an occupied area which many of us have seen as a problem since we moved here. If you consider the production and consumption of marijuana a victimless crime it's a drag to have an invading army, which many of us believe resell the product themselves, ripping you off in uniforms.
 
Oh I get it. Civil libertarians. How about just lazy *&&^% that depend on the marijuana underground to make their living?

By that rationale Eric some pervo chester from NAMBL can tip of the other freaks on the internet that the cops are working a certain site or ploy and that's OK with you?

As said earlier Eric KMUD does there reporting on the cops more than just during CAMP. Civil Libertarians = crooks.

"Community safety and awareness bulletins", that's really cute. Gee wiz I wonder why we don't have that in my neighborhood?
 
The concept is victimless crime. Smoking marijuana is an example. Sexual relations with a minor is not.
 
Victimless crime?
Just about every pot bust in the hills - the caravans reported by KMUD personnel - involves diesel gens, with attended fuel leaks into the ground, and the discovery of more than a few weapons.
Must be for varmint shooting.

You lawyers who make at least a partial income off of these busted pot growers are funny. Ever think of doing standup comedy?
 
Diesel leakage is not victimless crime, certainly.
 
I find the diesel leaks abhorrent. However, the CAMP reports are an age old institution from far before the diesel age and generally occur in summer when CAMP is active and diesel isn't.
 
How about diesel exhaust?? Heavy, highly carcinogenic particles are present in diesel exhaust, do not forget the heinous effects of 24hrs -day/7days -week/52 weeks-year fuel combustion and c02 release on global warming.(Yes Margaret, hate to break it to you, but these asses run their rooms year-round) Got an icecap? Hello greedy indo fools, want a future?

NO MOORE FUEL!
 
I took the liberty of rewriting estelle's talking points to make them more in compliance with California's truth and advertising laws.

“I am the candidate willing to listen to one side and give a really biased news story. Expect the same when I become supervisor.”

“The most important issue facing the Second District is our local economy - how can we grow more dope profitably and keep the northern Humboldt fascists from pulling it out of the ground before it is ready for harvest?"
 
Margaret,
Can you be more specific as to the other industry, besides pot, that the "larger county",- and it's present 2nd Dist. Supe by extention,- doesn't show much oonsideration for?

Would that be the non-profit industry?
 
So what has Rodoni done for us lately?
 
There have been two big problems here is So Hum lately and Rodoni has given us the finger. Straight up “Tough Shit”. Trash on the river and trash on the roads and the post office. Then there is the road problem of which I have asked him personally three times. Nada, zip, zilch, nothing except bigger pot holes and nothing in the pipeline about permanent fixes. If he was competent he would find a way!! Do any of you think that your auto is getting more screwed up because of the roads? Now what does Estelle or Cliff have to say about this?
 
I don't know if it was so much industry, although maybe tourist, but yes the south county gets the short end of roads, medical, and all social services. We always have, one of the reasons I was a big supporter of the Jim Lamport Sequoia County plan. Involving SoHum, Northern Mendo, and western Trinity.
 
Jim Lamport Sequoia County Plan? Another attempt to rewrite history. Jim was a late comer to the plan initiated by the Sylvandale nursery expert woman who's name escapes me. A core group of three people initiated the Sequoia County project which was later taken over by Jim and a larger group. "Sequoia County" was the name I suggested for the project that was accepted.
 
Shwaganana

You are right on the money.
 
I beleive it was LeAnne Barton and Jim Lamport that were the two most visable proponants of Sequoia county.
 
Rule #2:
Never try to spell before breakfast.
 
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Sequoia County? What good would be accomplshed by putting the poorest areas together to form a new county?
 
I think if we have any hope of kicking Roger out of office we need to get him in a runoff. I don't think any one candidate can beat him head to head in June and it is long odds he can be defeated in Nov. The Republican establishment is solidly behind him. The last time he was defeated at the polls was "92". In that election he was narrowly defeated by Roy Heider with the support of some of Robin Childs backers. Both Robin and Roy were considered more conservative than Roger, The then sherriff Dave Renner had let it be known that his department considered Rodoni a pot grower as they had busted gardens on the Palco property that Roger lived on and found trails leading back to his domcile. Times change but it still will be a difficult task for anyone percieved to be left of center to defeat him. I would urge anyone supporting either Estelle or Clif to focus on the task which is to discredit and defeat Mr. Rodoni.
 
Right on. The first thing these two need to do is tell the district what's wrong with Roger. They need to get more specific and talk about how they would be different from him. If they can't do that then they need not waste their time.
 
Dream on, folks. In case you haven't been paying attention, with a $14 billion State budget deficit more $$$ will be pulled away from counties, education and medical services for quite some time to come.
What solution to that problem do Clif or Estelle have?
 
At least make an attempt to draw in grants. Roger won't even pick up the phone.
 
Roger honestly believes that the dope growing industry is what will save his district.
 
I withdrew from the Sequoia County project when the local pols, Paul Encimer, Ed Denson, and Jim Lamport came into it after waiting to see if it had any legs or not. Once they did get in, it became apparent they wanted to use Sequoia County as another means for bashing PL. The new county line was deliberately moved north to include Palco land in order to have a reason to attack Palco. I could see that as far as democracy was concerned the new Sequoia County was already on its way to elitist rule by anti-corporate types with mainstream values and desires of Sequoia County mainstream residents out the window.
 
This tendency for local activist pols to think their anti-corporate vision is the only one permissible for Humboldt County residents is what is going to defeat both Estelle and Clif. Clif, not so much for his personal politics but for his choice of political managers--people straight off the anti-corporate, anti-Palco, pro-Gallegos boat in Humboldt County--and once Roger's people exposes that fact--Clif's campaign will be seen as a Trojan Horse for getting Progs in power in the 2nd District. Estelle will be branded a tool of SoHum Progs right off the bat and will never be able to overcome her years of KMUD bashing Palco and all the timber industry whose votes she needs to win.
 
and how do you know what Roger honestly believes ???????
 
Funny Stephen. I do not remember your involvement in the proposal at all.
 
I don't know about Sequoia County being a front for enviro elitists. It appeared to be more Mateelitist in origin.
Although our town was included in it, nobody from the Sequoia group ever came to see or talk with us about it. It was like - they didn't need to!
I wasn't at all surprised by the big flop it turned out to be.
 
Jim Lamport Sequoia County Plan? Another attempt to rewrite history. Jim was a late comer to the plan initiated by the Sylvandale nursery expert woman who's name escapes me.

Leanne
 
I do hope that this campaign is going to be about more than the CLMP reports on KMUD, whether Estelle was involved in them or not. If we are trying to distinguish the candidates from one another what's the point of attacking Estelle as being pro-pot (aside from the fact that she's not responsible for the CLMP reports)? I thought that's why everyone was mad at Roger? Are these posts by Clif supporters? Is Clif anti-pot, or do these posters need a 4th candidate to support their anti-pot, anti-medical use position? Just asking.
 
"Funny Stephen. I do not remember your involvement in the proposal at all."

Leanne Barton's idea came a few years after we had discussed how to get local control of SoHum at several "Communiversity" meetings held in 1988. The original core group was Leanne, Manny Fishberg, and me. We met at Tooby Park where the name I suggested was agreed upon. Manny and I dropped out. It was part of my disillusionment with counterculture activism that hid the undemocratic, elitist mentality that one constantly sees with Prog pols, i.e., "we know what's best for you" while forgetting that the strength of America rests on democracy and representation of all sides.
 
Why must she claim she was News Director for 17 years? (that is how she was portrayed on the local TV news, I almost choked on my tortilla soup) I resent puffed up resumes and claims to fame that hold no merit. The day she came on board they made her News Director? That is not how I remember it, thank you Susanne Dembitz. Is her self esteem so low she needs to make these obviously false claims? No vote for her from me. She has obvious integrity problems.
 
Why put in good roads so dope growers have an easier time getting their big gennies and deisel in.

Yo Margaret, I hope CAMP or it's DEA partner comes to visit you soon.
 
Why put in good roads so dope growers have an easier time getting their big gennies and deisel in.

Because dope growers are propping up what's left of the local economy?
 
"At least make an attempt to draw in grants. Roger won't even pick up the phone."

Supervisors don't write grants- individual county departments do. So are you expecting Clif and Estelle to become grant writers if they get elected?
 
Manny and I dropped out I know this is ancient history, but Manny was a journalist writing for the Redwood Record and did not feel that advocacy was compatable with being a journalist. I don't know if he was ever "in" to drop-out. I wish he were still around writing, he was very lively and interesting to read.
 
Anon,5:37 Only an anonymous person would even whisper that in this county. However, since we live on one of the most main roads in the county I'm sure they could if they felt it was worthwhile. I'm just tired of popping tires on my way out to boogie board in the cove.
 
Manny is doing well up in the Seattle region, but still misses the homefolks in SoHum. I keep meaning to reply to his email of a year or so ago. Good intentions.
 
Estelle has been a big supporter of fire fighters, both the local fire companies and Cal fire in this area.Estelle recently attended the fire chiefs meeting to see what their concerns are.
In 11 years the local fire chiefs association has never seen Roger and found it hard to get his attention.
 
Ed, you weren't there. Manny and Leanne and I were. You joined later after others joined when the project looked like it could go somewhere. Once pols like you go hold of Leanne's idea, you guys ruined it by skewering Sequoia County's agenda to anti-corporate politics and close out of mainstream SoHum input into the new County's important decision-making which is why I dropped out and may have contributed to Manny's decision too. Anti-corporate politics in this county often mean anti-democracy as enviros and now Progs try to limit mainstream Humboldt County citizen choices.
 
Supervisors don't write grants- individual county departments do. So are you expecting Clif and Estelle to become grant writers if they get elected?

I expect them to get on the phone to lobby for them, yes.
 
If Estelle is researching and fact finding and issue hunting I want to know what she has in mind about the roads. What is she going to do? Or Cliff? Or either of them going to get some money to John Cassali to pick up the trash? Just some help for him. Some gas money. A little cash to help pay a shitty wage to some of his helpers. Do you remember that he was threatened for leaving trash on the side of the road? Threatened by the county. I want answers!! I don’t want “I know there are problems.” Otherwise they are just another asshole. Like Rodoni.
 
Not mentioning the Sunday article in the ER about Roger was just an oversight on your part?
 
Yes. Do you have a link?
 
Sorry, I can't find a link I just saw the article in the paper on Sunday and thought it might be of interest.
 
First they were called Pot holes.
Then they were called Chuck holes.
Then they were called Charles holes.
Now they are called Rodoni holes.

But, don't worry, they will all be fixed just before the election, they always are!
 
Come on Eric...you don't know how to find the link!? Your prejudices are showing through.
 
There is no god damn link. Check for yourself dumbass.
 
Here. You can look for yourself.
 
Thank you for the link. I went to the ER site for the first time in weeks, and I don't know how to find archived articles. It says "today's paper" or something like that.

In any case, thanks for the link.
 
Okay, I didn't find any Sunday story in that link. Would somebody just link me to the article please?
 
http://eurekareporter.com/article/080216-rodoni-shoots-for-a-fourth-supervisor-term
 
Sorry Eric. I tried to find it myself and could not locate it so I put the search thing up so you or anybody else could see for themselves that the story could not be found. Here is a hyperlink to the Mon Feb 18, 8:20:00 PM post. Click on it. I tried and like Eric, was not able to find anything. The Eureka Reporter’s search engine still does not find the story by typing “Rodger Rodoni” into the box. There are a lot of stories but not the Sunday story. You cannot blame Eric for not posting it. The ER site sucks. At least for finding this story it sucked. Maybe finding the story sucks because Rodoni sucks. Did you ever think of that? Well I did!!
 
In the story it says:
“In response to his critics who say he’s been absent in his district, Rodoni said he’s maintained an office in Garberville for 11 years and he is there every Thursday with the door open to anyone who wants to talk.”
I have been to his office and have received no help to the road problem. Nothing viable. Patched potholes are not viable. It has been years and years. The post office is still closed when I need to access it. Rodoni has not helped me. What has he done for you?
 
The post office is still closed when I need to access it. Rodoni has not helped me.

Yeah, and it keeps raining. Seriously, the post office is a federally controlled business - the county's got nothing to do with it, does it?
 
The poster's point might have been that the post office is closed because of problems with the transient population, which IS a problem Rodoni hasn't been able to adequately address. All he says is that SoHum asked for it by being tolerant of it.
 
Then we should be very interested in hearing what Estelle's solution to the SoHum "transient problem" is. And Clif's too.

Maybe they can help fill pot holes!?
 
Ed I wrote the comment about the Post Office and Rodoni not doing anything. Obviously the Post Office is a federal business. The reason it is closed is because of local issues according to the Post Master. Rodoni has pretty much said tough shit to us. Sometimes I wonder how you passed the bar let alone law school. You seem to have problems grasping ideas in the abstract.
Yes I am very interested in what Estelle and Cliff have to say about this problem. Solutions not just agreement that there is a problem. And maybe they can figure out how to get the damn roads repaved. Rodoni seems to think that filling pot holes is the answer too.
 
ok eric...now that you have the link, why don't you post it on your home page like you did for the other candidates?
 
wondering about ed said:
"Yes I am very interested in what Estelle and Cliff have to say about this problem. Solutions not just agreement that there is a problem. And maybe they can figure out how to get the damn roads repaved. Rodoni seems to think that filling pot holes is the answer too."

Maybe Wondering About ED Said should look into how much of his taxes go to Sacramento first, and social services second; and how little of his taxes goes to Public Works.It's no different in other districts in the county - all the roads in the rural areas are in need of repair. In other words, don't take it personally. Give Public Works employees credit for doing what they do with so little resources. There's no money to do it! GET IT?
 
Revolt!!
 
wonderingabouted, said
You seem to have problems grasping ideas in the abstract.
Speaking of abstract you still have not explained what the problem you have with the post office (Redway?, Garberville?) is,or why you think Roger should be able to solve it. For all I know you might be right, but its hard to tell when there are no non-abstractions, like facts, on the table. So:

1. What's the problem?
2. Why is it local and not Federal?
3. What gives Roger the power to solve it?
4. What is Estelle going to do about it?
5. What is Clif going to do about it?
6. What are you going to do about it?
 
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