Friday, July 18, 2008

 

Johanna Rodoni will run

As reported in the Eureka Reporter.

In the WTF? department is this passage:
“I am hoping to be on the ballot in November,” Johanna said.

But whether or not voters in Fortuna and areas south will see her name next to candidates Clif Clendenen and Estelle Fennell on the ballot hinges on a legal opinion being considered by California’s Legislative Council, which is expected any day.

As I've said before, there shouldn't even be write-ins in a run-off, but unless somebody files a court challenge the state and local elections departments are basically allowing Johanna's (or anybody else's) write-in candidacy. The article states nothing about Johanna's legal argument. And whether she's actually on the ballot or as a write-in, somebody's bound to file a legal challenge either before or after the election, no matter who wins.

What a mess.

Comments:
She deserves to lose. This is "The Hillary Syndrome," in which we vote for one person and suddenly their spouse is running things.

We have qualified candidates for this office. We don't need unqualified opportunists.
 
She's got my vote.
 
Whether she runs or not, Clif has the election in the bag.
 
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Eric: you are a constant source of amazement and self-importance. You say WTF because you can not legally navigate your way out of a paper bag. Your comments about write ins and comments about what Mrs. Rodoni’s remarks are about running, simply show that you have not studied the elections code. Now, it seems that I heard that you wrote a letter to the state asking certain questions. Hopefully you asked the correct ones, but I am not counting on that.

We know that you are a big Clif supporter so are you going to be the one who files a lawsuit? Or are you just trying to stir up a little business?

I am not anticipating any lawsuit regarding Rodoni, because such would have to be based on the law, and the law doesn’t stop her from running.

Just a suggestion Eric, one that might save you a little embarrassment later on. Try keeping your mouth shut and not type any blog entries until after you find out the legal basis. Every time you shoot from the hip and get shown to be wrong is pretty funny.
 
10:18 - All those words, and not one actual argument?

How lame is that?
 
Actually Eric, it is called keeping your cards close to your vest.
 
"10:18 - All those words, and not one actual argument?

How lame is that?"

Well, in all fairness, you did that yourself when you said she could not run.
 
It's still my position. Nobody, and I mean nobody, in the media coverage or the government, has even attempted to address the wording of the runoff provisions and the San Francisco case. Not one argument.

I can't see that there's any legal basis to have Johanna's name on the ballot itself and I guarantee that someone will file suit there if she managed to win.

But it'll all probably be moot. Clif will win at least the plurality in the general. If he wins over half, there won't be a basis for any lawsuit.
 
It may still be your position Eric, but somebody in another thread, obviously another attorney, refuted your argument point by point, showing where the case you cite doesnt have any relevance.

I'm way too lazy to find it, but it's here, and I'm not even sure you responded to it.
 
Well, I certainly missed that. If you can find it, please let me know.
 
"Anonymous said...
Oh for Chirst sakes at least read the decision in Bradley. The issues were completely different. In Bradley, two election contests were filed concerning the results of a runoff election for mayor and for one city council seat. The trial court granted the election contest concerning the mayoral race, removing the winning candidate and replacing him with the losing candidate, on the ground that the city clerk had improperly placed the winning candidate first on the runoff ballot. The trial court also granted the election contest concerning the city council race. The court found that the winning candidate had committed election offenses. It annulled her election, replaced her with the losing candidate on the ground of a ballot name-order error by the clerk, and declared the candidate whose election had been annulled ineligible ever to hold public office again.

As to the mayoral election, the Court of Appeal reversed the judgment and reinstated the winning candidate as mayor. As to the city council race, the court affirmed the portion of the judgment annulling the winning candidate's election for having committed offenses against the elective franchise, but reversed the portion of the judgment for the challenger based on the name-order change, and further reversed the portion of the judgment imposing the lifetime elective office disqualification. The court held that the city clerk properly used the same random alphabetized draw for ballot placement in the runoff election as he had in the primary election. The court said that a runoff election is merely the second round of voting in a single election, and therefore, Elec. Code §§13112 and 13113, does not require the clerk to request a new randomized alphabet draw for the runoff election. The court further held that the trial court properly annulled the city council candidate's election on the basis of the election offenses, even though it did not find that the offenses would have changed the result of the election. However, the trial court erred in awarding the city council seat to the losing candidate on the basis of the primacy effect theory (the candidate listed first wins a certain number of votes simply because of ballot placement). The court held that no judicial or statutory authority exists to reverse the election results where, due to unintentional clerical error, the ballot listed the candidates in the wrong alphabetical order. Finally, the court held that the lifetime elective-office disqualification should not have been imposed, since the candidate disqualified by the trial court had not been convicted of a felony under Elect. Code, 18501.

Now in Edelstien, the question presented by the case was whether former City and County of San Francisco, Cal., Charter art. XIII, § 13.102 (repealed Mar. 5, 2000), by prohibiting write-in voting in runoff elections for municipal offices, violated the free speech clause of Cal. Const. art. I, § 2(a). The state supreme court reviewed and determined that Govt Code 15430 allowed for write in votes in a general election and then reviewed the matter to see if the charter violated the constitution. The court concluded it did not. Those challenging the measure entirely failed to supply the court with cogent reasons to conclude that disallowing write-in voting in runoff elections violated the free speech clause of the California Constitution. San Francisco allowed write-in voting in its municipal general elections.


Now Eric - since the Supremes recognized that 15430 allows write in candidates in general elections AND that it constitutionally permissible for a municipality to pass local legislation to prohibit it, then given the fact that there is NO SUCH PROHIBITION in this county and 15430 is still in effect, do you want to say "oops," you made a mistake OR are you going to continue to try and justify a very lazy attempt to spin things your own way?

Now, lets all be nice and play fair.

Wed Jun 11, 03:09:00 PM"
 
" Anonymous said...
ps eric

In addition to what I posted at 3:09, I forgot to respond to what you earlier posted about using cases for issues other than what was decided in the specific case.

May I quote: County of Ventura v. Channel Islands Marina, Inc. (2008) 159 Cal.App.4th 615, 626 [“[A] case is not authority for matters not discussed therein.”

or maybe Contra Costa Water Dist. v. Bar-C Properties, 5 Cal. App. 4th 652 and Palmer v. Ted Stevens Honda, Inc. (1987) 193 Cal.App.3d 530, 539 [238 Cal.Rptr. 363].) "Opinions are not authority for issues they do not consider."

What did you learn in law school? This is basis stuff Eric.

Now back to work friends and remember to play fair.

Wed Jun 11, 03:24:00 PM"
 
Eric, the enemy of democracy in Humboldt County just cannot stand the idea of 2nd District voters voting their preferences. He and Estelle want to stop democracy in its tracks so a minority Prog candidate can be elected. Sick.

Go Johanna! If you're allowed your name on the ballot you're a sure winner in November! And even if handicapped as a write-in candidate, you can probably top the other two contenders in November.

I will be rooting and tooting for ya and giving these Proggie anti-Democrats something to think about every time they post another anti-democracy, anti-community topic or comment. At least while I can. Eric may take the Heraldo chickenshit path and go WordPress so he can censor opposition voices like me.
 
That completely begs the question. I realize the SF case refers to a local ordinance which is much more explicit about its exclusion of write-in candidacies in the run-off.

The principle of Edelstein and Bradley overturns the Attorney General decision of 1982 which stated pretty much that the right to a write-in in any election trumps the run-off provision. This was the only decision on point before Edelstein. What Edelstein did was to state that a runoff provision which excludes write-ins does not frustrate the right to a write-in because the run-off is merely the second part of the same election.

So the operative question is whether the state run-off provisions exclude write-ins. That's the only relevant question which has not been decided, Deukmejian having been overturned on his assumption of a right to a write-in in both phases of the runoff. The ONLY issue left is whether section, I think it was 8141, I can check it later, excludes write-ins in the second phase.

My argument is that the wording, which states whom the candidates "shall be" implicitly excludes write-ins in the second phase for several reasons.

1. It states whom the candidates "shall be," and provides no explicit provision for write-ins.

2. The provision, and in fact the whole statute string, is rendered meaningless if the first the phase of the run-off has no purpose.

3. The old version of the statute before it was amended in 1960 stated specifically that the first round decides which names shall be placed on the ballot, which did leave it open for write-ins. It was amended eliminating that sentence and replacing it with wording telling us whom the candidates will be, not merely whom will be listed on the ballot. When a law is rewritten, there is a presumption that the rewrite was intentional and done with a purpose in mind.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, who has been interviewed by the Times Standard or KMUD, and nobody from either the state or local elections department, has addressed the actual wording of the statute. Nobody. Never. Nowhere.

And to answer a previous question, no, the Secretary of State's office has not gotten back to me. Not even with a form letter. They charged out with a statement about a case in San Diego citing it as authority because nobody thought to bring up the issue of the implied exclusion as if that alone is determinative. But no case since the Attorney General decision of 26 years ago has attempted to interpret the statute.

It takes a couple hundred bucks to get the legislative history of the statute, which would probably be determinative of the legislative intent, one way or another. The Secretary of State could call up the file and have it in an hour. But they went on record without checking it out, and now they'd look stupid to go back on their public statement. So no, I don't expect a response from them.
 
Eric, you are a piss poor lawyer. You convince everyone that there is no reason Clif supporters and Estelle supporters should attack each other. Turns out they had every reason to do so. Now we have a spoiled little bitch in Estelle Fennel who is going to end up fucking the entire district over. Gee, you may think you know the "letter of the law" but you know jack shit when it comes to its practical interpretation. We call that book smarts. This is your fucking problem. Are you going to call for Estelle to drop out? Or are you going to keep squawking about how unfair of a mess this is? Get with it Kirk!
 
"The Secretary of State could call up the file and have it in an hour. But they went on record without checking it out, and now they'd look stupid to go back on their public statement."

Pretty big assumption that they "went on record without cheking it out", or perhaps they already know what you don't.
 
Eric is the one making assumptions here. Just as he made the assumption that Estelle was not a threat because she would place third and be forced to bow out. Now he has put Clif in the position of having to file a lawsuit to save his campaign. While that may be good for some lawyers pocketbook it is a disaster for Clif and for the second district. Shame on you Eric.
 
This is how I see it Eric - if the majority of the voters vote for Rodoni, why do you think that it is democratic to try and keep her out of the race. ]

Isn't this about the will of the people...

Or did you only mean that if it is beneficial to your candidate.

Face it, you really are not democratic or progressive.
 
This comment posted on a topic below is appropriate for Humboldt County's champion of anti-democratic elections, Eric.

--You, Eric, Estelle, all need to understand why Jesus directed us all to acting on the Spirit and not the Letter of the Law. The Spirit of democracy demands you help local people achieve their democratic right to elect the candidate of their choice, not yours.--

Get it, Eric? The law isn't helpful in this situation. Why not think about people's rights for a change instead of always looking for the "win", you know, like EPIC does too, looking for the "win" that is really a cover for much greater loss. In this case, democracy.
 
Yeah! Johanna running means a huge dog and cat fight between Clif and Estelle's promoters with Estelle being asked in no uncertain terms to leave the field so Clif can win. Meanwhile, SoHum gets the shaft as Clif knows and probably knows little and cares less for SoHum problems. Johanna always has her SoHum rancher friends and independent thinkers on her side in SoHum so she knows SoHum issues.
 
It is still very likely that Clif will win. He will have to go after Estelle votes which means finally dropping the treaty with Estelle and going after her. Clif and Rodoni were neck and neck. If Estelle weren't so selfish, she would see this reality. She came in 3rd place.
 
Well, I certainly missed that. If you can find it, please let me know.

I remember it as well. If I remember correctly, Eric, you made a huge gaffe in the fact that you took a judges statement on an unrelated matter and said it applied to this situation. Apparently that is a first year legal students mistake.
 
Stephen...I can tell you right now that the next supervisor of the second district will not be a Rodoni no matter what you folks in Real Dull think. Do the math. If it even looks like Johanna has a chance us progs will unify behind one candidate. Johanna is helping Clif by running. I do find it interesting that everything county elections and the league of women voters told us in the primary seems to be out the window and they are making it up as we go along.
 
Go Estelle!
 
It is amusing that Estelle is crying foul. I mean, she should be. She came in a distant 3rd place. The only reason she is still considered a candidate is because Roger died. It must be hard to walk around town knowing that you benefited from a mans untimely death.
 
Pretty big assumption that they "went on record without cheking it out", or perhaps they already know what you don't.

Then why didn't they say something about it?
 
This is how I see it Eric - if the majority of the voters vote for Rodoni, why do you think that it is democratic to try and keep her out of the race. ]

Well Stephen, for one thing democracy is defined not just by majority will, but by process that isn't arbitrary. We have rules set up for elections and everybody who participates plays by them, or should. Instead, we have people trying to change the process because it didn't work out for them.

Johanna didn't run in the initial phase of the election, but three other campaigns spent tens of thousands of dollars on a campaign which is rendered meaningless. If I ever decide to run for local office and the interpretation of the law hasn't changed, I'll probably just skip the first round and run in the fall - especially if Johanna manages to establish a precedent of getting her name on the later ballot.

I'll just let everybody know I'm planning to run and slowly raise the money while the other candidates are spending it for a meaningless election.

I remember it as well. If I remember correctly, Eric, you made a huge gaffe in the fact that you took a judges statement on an unrelated matter and said it applied to this situation. Apparently that is a first year legal students mistake.

A first year legal students mistake. Did you mean law student?

Get your language right before you start spouting off legal principles you don't understand. In any case, it's addressed in a post above.
 
And still, nobody addresses the wording of the run-off statute.
 
ahh, but we dont need to be legal beagles to know that the elections board has different opinion than yours, one that has much more weight. You're wrong. Snide rejoinders aside, you're still incorrect, - all of your ponderous musings notwithstanding, you're still wrong.
 
the Supremes recognized that 15430 allows write in candidates in general elections

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Allowing "write-in" canidadates still does not "put your name" on the ballot.
 
Bottom line is that we are now back to Estelle being a potential spoiler, like in the Harbor race or in Eureka City Council races.
That was not the case in primary where she helped to keep Rodoni below 50%, but it is if Johanna runs in the general.
 
the Supremes recognized that 15430 allows write in candidates in general elections

In which case?

Allowing "write-in" canidadates still does not "put your name" on the ballot.

So?
 
"This is how I see it Eric - if the majority of the voters vote for Rodoni, why do you think that it is democratic to try and keep her out of the race."

"Well Stephen, for one thing democracy is defined not just by majority will, but by process that isn't arbitrary. We have rules set up for elections and everybody who participates plays by them, or should. Instead, we have people trying to change the process because it didn't work out for them."

Well, for one other thing, Eric, you're still seeing Steve Lewis phantoms in posts not mine. Do you have bad Steve Lewis dreams too? Get religion and learn why the Spirit of the law is always more important than the legal system you work under that kills and imprisons blacks and brown people while letting rich white off, the legal system that protects tobacco and credit card companies from lawsuit, or maybe you see the legal system as an opportunity for fame and fortune working it looking like a good person instead of a shyster buck seeking lawyer with a fat lawsuit win against a Love Canal poisoner.

Eric, you got that ancient Jewish Chosen One Judges ideology blinding you to real ethical decisions. You think lawyers and judges make smarter decisions than lay people forgetting democracy thrives on the common man's (woman's too!-pc) ability to buck entrenched power.

Democracy= the common person's protection against people like you who would take away their rights with "legal" eze.
 
The only spoiler in the race is potentially johanna. she is NOT a candiadate. Her name is Not on the ballot. This is a continuation of the June election, That's why it's called a RUN OFF election. There can be only TWO candidates in a RUN OFF election.
The rodoni regime is arrogant enough to once again demand special priveleges by having the election office break the election rules just for them and put johannas name on the ballot.
Not only will it not be legal for her name to be on the ballot, it will not be legal for her to participate in this RUN OFF ELECTION as a write in candidate.

The Power Elite in Eureka has had 12 long years and just do not want to let go and obviously will do anything to keep a strangle hold even if it means breaking the election laws.

There definitely needs to be a legal challenge to this corrupt plan they are hatching.
 
4:05 said:"The rodoni regime is arrogant enough to once again demand special priveleges by having the election office break the election rules just for them and put johannas name on the ballot."

Well 4:05 and for that matter you too Eric. Will you eat your words if the leg counsel or court says this is not a special privilege and no "election rules" are broken.

Nah - didn't think so. What I do see however, is that you lose poorly and without any grace or humility.
 
Why isn't Mrs.Rodoni owning her long-time membership on the Humboldt County Republican Central Committee?
 
Eric, you got that ancient Jewish Chosen One Judges ideology blinding you to real ethical decisions. You think lawyers and judges make smarter decisions than lay people forgetting democracy thrives on the common man's (woman's too!-pc) ability to buck entrenched power.

Then it's up to the "common man" to change the laws properly, not in the middle of an election.

But if it was put to a vote, how many "common" folk would want their June vote to be rendered meaningless? The people of San Francisco explicitly voted for a runoff system which would guarantee that the winner took the majority of votes and not merely a plurality.
 
Well 4:05 and for that matter you too Eric. Will you eat your words if the leg counsel or court says this is not a special privilege and no "election rules" are broken.

There's a difference between the Legal Counsel and the court, but if there is some law that I'm missing then I would accept the decision as valid. So far I've seen no law to justify that her name be placed on the ballot in the ensuing election of a runoff race. That would be mystifying.

As for the write-in, I'd certainly accept a court decision which took into account the legislative history of the provision.
 
I would think you would be happy, Eric. Johanna running puts her into second place, assuring Clif the first position and Estelle a distant third. What will Clif's final percentage be? I think about 40% which is all it takes. I mean, didn't Clinton get elected with only 40% because of Perot?
 
Whether it helps or hurts Clif or Estelle is beside the point. The issue is that the candidates and their campaigns expended great money and effort into a June election which could become meaningless. June ought to have resolved something.
 
"Why isn't Mrs.Rodoni owning her long-time membership on the Humboldt County Republican Central Committee?"


Early on the Republican Party sent out a mailer to all Republicans in Humbodt spelling out to them that it was essential that they(republicans) keep this supervisors seat and that they will do ANYTHING to ensure they keep that seat.
We are now seeing the effects of that Republican declaration. Blatant disregard and rule breaking of the election laws.
 
Blatant disregard and rule breaking of the election laws.

With the help of a Democratic Party Secretary of State.
 
If Roger hadn't been killed, it would have come to a run off between Clif and him. Estelle is the only one who can complain. She is the one going to be wasting money. Clif would have had to spend it no matter what. My question is - How will effect her fundraising?
 
we vote for one person and suddenly their spouse is running things.

Like Nancy Pelosi?
 
Estelle is a spoiler and she should drop out. Look at all the money she wasted! Almost half of it on consultants who are supposed to be experts - They didn't see this coming! DUH!!!
 
In a write-in election ballot the candidate name must be correctly spelled and the vote circle must be filled in. Johanna will have to beat overwhelming statistical odds to win. The elimination of a write-in slot in the runoff will outrage the district conservatives and Cliff will have little chance of a second term. Actually, Cliff will have little chance of a second term even if a write-in is allowed. Does anyone remember Raoul Murgia? How about Eric Hedlund or the highly respected Ray Peart? All progressives, all one term Supervisors. The Pritchard vs Katz race was close and that was a long time ago. The idea that there has been an erosion in conservative voters in the 2nd district is a fantasy. Eureka is different.
 
In a write-in election ballot the candidate name must be correctly spelled and the vote circle must be filled in.

Actually Eric already posted that the spelling need only be a "reasonable facsimile."
 
The idea that there has been an erosion in conservative voters in the 2nd district is a fantasy.

63 percent of the voters in June said otherwise.
 
--Eric, you got that ancient Jewish Chosen One Judges ideology blinding you to real ethical decisions. You think lawyers and judges make smarter decisions than lay people forgetting democracy thrives on the common man's (woman's too!-pc) ability to buck entrenched power.

"Then it's up to the "common man" to change the laws properly, not in the middle of an election.

But if it was put to a vote, how many "common" folk would want their June vote to be rendered meaningless? The people of San Francisco explicitly voted for a runoff system which would guarantee that the winner took the majority of votes and not merely a plurality."

This isn't San Francisco, Eric. Big City politics that you and invading Prog pols represent is what isn't needed in Humboldt County. Your facile words forever flowing out of your mouth to cover your lack of empathy for real democracy when real democracy thwarts your political ambitions tells us that you don't care. You don't care about 2nd District voters rights at all. You want to "judge" them according to your lights so that you can wipe out their choice of candidate.

You might think of returning to the Bay Area where your cutthroat us vs. them political values would be more at home.
 
Why does Steve Lewis pretend to be a native? I, as a real native, am sick to death of him constantly calling newbies invaders.

The claim that there can be a write-in candidate in a run-off was shocking, the claim that there can be additional names on the ballot is outrageous. This isn't just about THIS election but about those in the future as well. This makes a mockery of our election system where they just negate an entire election and create chaos when everyone thought they were playing by the same rules at the beginning.

If someone wants to challenge this, I would donate and I bet lots of other people would too.
 
The only "us vs them" around here are the old timers who want to shut everybody else out.
 
"Why does Steve Lewis pretend to be a native? I, as a real native, am sick to death of him constantly calling newbies invaders."

We're all sick to death of this useless parasite.
 
Well, God isn't and you'll just have to get used to me because Steve Lewis is here to stay. I may not stick around all the time on this blog of haters but you're never going to get rid of me.

Why? Because Steve Lewis going down in history. Your grandchildren will read about the prophet of God who fashioned Paxcalibur, Sword of Peace, Sign of the Messiah and new Word of God in their history books. Students of religion will read my religious books in order to understand how all intellectual Christians went Gnostic after Stephen's Gospel was published and why Israel failed and how the Republic of Canaan was resurrected and established in its place at the ending of the Israeli-Palestinian war.
 
And after your dead, your brain will be put into a jar and will be of great interest to medical students, and thin slices will be sent to medical labs around the world, where they will be examined in great detail. You will be famous. You will be the subject of much debate and in the end they all will conclude that your drug soaked brain made you who you are - a man who had a set of beliefs and behaviors that resulted from a psyche controlled by fear and aggression, closed minded dogmatism, and intolerance of ambiguity, compounded by mental rigidity and decreased cognitive complexity (dumbness).
 
"you're dead"
 
That same fate happened to Einstein's brain and look how he's remembered.

I'm sorry to disappoint my haters but I now know who I am and my role in history. Part of the reason I've come back to post here is results from an overflow of words spilling out of me as I go through another one of my visionary periods. I've been in this one now for about two weeks and it's already changed me. I won't be running for Supervisor or organizing any more social change projects save for my mission from God.

My Father has revealed startling information to me about the Son of Man prophets and now I have to tell the world what God told me in spiritual communion. A Son of Man prophesy bearer bearing Good News, a new gospel, does not come along very often and you've got one right here in Humboldt County who can explain Jesus and Son of Man prophets role as no one else ever has. And I bear witness of Her arrival, a Sign from God that has connected me spiritually and now with blood line ties to the Lakota and spiritually to the Northern Cheyenne, Nez Perce, Wiyot and of course, Bear River, all Native America actually. My spiritual revelations will eventually change Christianity forever because unlike the dead prophets in the old books, this prophet is alive and working in our lifetimes, Paxcalibur is real and the work I was sent to do for my Father and all humanity is fully documented. My spiritual authority comes with honest to goodness real miraculous Signs from God but there won't be myth created but truth revealed this time around.
 
I will be offering my lottery system expertise to whoever wants to take on this new project I've started to organize after the Heartlands Project tanked (again) in March of this year. Go to: www.lifelinelottery.org. to see how a lottery system can help save lives.
 
He's talking about himself in the third person now. Just like Bob Dole.
 
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Sat Jul 19, 02:52:00 PM
"Why? Because Steve Lewis going down in history. Your grandchildren will read about the prophet of God who fashioned Paxcalibur, Sword of Peace, Sign of the Messiah and new Word of God in their history books. Students of religion will read my religious books in order to understand how all intellectual Christians went Gnostic after Stephen's Gospel was published and why Israel failed and how the Republic of Canaan was resurrected and established in its place at the ending of the Israeli-Palestinian war."

Sat Jul 19, 04:30:00 PM "I will be offering my lottery system expertise to whoever wants to take on this new project I've started to organize after the Heartlands Project tanked (again) in March of this year. Go to: www.lifelinelottery.org. to see how a lottery system can help save lives.

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so, god wants MORE gambling?

wow! whowouldathunkit?
 
now i get why stephen has been ranting about "jewish chosen ones" who aren't really chosen ones.

it turns out that stephen's got his very own "gnostic chosen one" and i guess chosen ones don't like competition.
 
A Clif supporter heard Clif on KMUD say Johanna running isn't going to affect his campaign, he is going forward, more power to Johanna clif said. estelle was the whiner, who if i remember correctly stephen lewis said he would vote for because of her spunk?! I don't know if estelle is a bitch or not, but she is certainly an ego driven, power addict, and doesn't have the insight to realize that she's spoiling the chance to get rid of the rodoni's.
I am truly starting to believe that Stephen Lewis is crazy.
 
Sophia the wise Goddess returns! And as the Son of the Father, you are the Son of Sophia! Well, that is an honest to goodness miracle, for sure! You are the Chosen! Your spiritual revelations will forever change the world of man. I have long and long waited for the Good News. My prayers have been answered.
 
Stephen Lewis is Buster Luce

He's bustin' loose, he's bustin' loose

He's the Chosen one, he's a gnostic nob

He's the one true son of the one true God!
 
A Clif supporter heard Clif on KMUD say Johanna running isn't going to affect his campaign, he is going forward, more power to Johanna clif said. estelle was the whiner, who if i remember correctly stephen lewis said he would vote for because of her spunk?

While I agree that Estelle should really stay focused, I think the criticism is unfair. She's in a little bit of a tight spot with Johanna in the race because people who voted for her in the first round may be more hesitant to do so in the second round. In fact, there's bound to be pressure on her to beg out to avoid splitting Clif's vote, since Clif did go toe to toe with Rodoni in Fortuna in round one. I've already spoken to two people who are considering a change of vote for the fall.

She can't drop out at this point, or at least she can't remove her name from the ballot, having qualified in the first round.

The Cal legislature really needs to clean this up. Either limit the second round to two candidates, or eliminate the first round. If the Secretary of State is correct in her interpretation, the law makes absolutely no sense.
 
"...the law makes absolutely no sense."

that phrase could describe probably 20% of the laws that are in place today.

but i agree, the election law needs to be clarified on this point and it looks like this may be the case where that happens, at least i hope so.

and, beyond the write-in question, there's the the report (on heraldo's blog) that some unidentified rodoni supporters are apparently trying to find some way to force johanna's name to actually be placed on the fall ballot.

i'm pretty sure that gambit's going to fail (what possible basis cold there be for it to succeed) but it's pretty troubling that people would even be trying to pull off something that blantantly illegal. johanna hasn't run for anything so far, so what possible justification would there be for placing her name on the ballot, other than the fact that she was married to roger? and how is that any legitimate reason to place her on the ballot? that whole thing is an amazing sham, no wonder the "unnamed lawyers" don't want to be named.
 
“But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. ‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’ The man was speechless.
“Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
“For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
—Matthew 22
 
What Clif said on KMUD re Johanna running: "Why not? It's a free country." WTF.....anarchist?
 
9:21 that's a pretty harsh dress code!
 
I'm missing the connection between the topic and the Bible passage. Can someone lay it out for me?
 
don't encourage them, eric. i have a feeling that there's a lot more drivel where that came from.
 
Is God a gambler? I waited for 14 years to get enough money ahead to go to Israel to complete the Paxcalibur vision. A couple of times I had money enough from small inheritances and I tried gambling once before at Reno to raise the money. But each time I had enough in my hot little fist, some disaster came along and made me car-less or homeless, forcing me to spend the extra money on immediate needs. 3 days after I found out on an Internet religious talkboard I was posting frequently on--this time posting to the Native American spirituality group--that my Vision of Christ Josephine that had come to me five years earlier totally out of nowhere and did not fit all my previous religious revelations and visions, all couched in Biblical symbolism and terms--was a perfect match for the Lakota's prophesy of the Return of White Buffalo Calf Woman--I ran $75 up to $1300 playing blackjack on internet casinos and immediately bought a rt ticket to Israel.

About 13 days after finding out CJ is WBCW, I found out from my daughter living in Oregon at the time who had the first vision of CJ 14 years before me, that her nice young lumber grader blond white guy Eureka fellow she married just happened to discover a year before all this happened that his Native American kinfolk he knew vaguely about were Lakota, himself an 8th Lakota and direct descendant of Chief Sitting Bull. Got Sitting Bull's family tree history and Peace Medal as a family heirloom. I got in touch with Arvol Looking Horse, the 19th Keeper of the Lakota's Sacred Pipe, given to them by White Buffalo Calf Woman to tell about my vision of Christ Josephine. He told me if our paths were meant to meet they would and two years later I'm good friends with Alex White Plume with his tribe, the Oglala Sioux interested in the Heartlands lottery project--except now I can't get hold of their current leader, John Steele--he's always on the road so I don't really know if the Oglala are still interested or not.

I am a vision driven person which is why I often find myself at odds with those who are materially bound to this world. But it is people like me who bring the spiritual visions that carry a people to higher levels of humanity regardless of the shit we have to endure because entrenched materialists never ever want to concede social power to those who serve God and humanity before power or money.
 
Stephen, I thought you were boycotting me. What happened?
 
God's Presence is seen in Signs, in synchronicity events that have the power to reach your soul.

It is so odd but not really but around 1997 I was going to be sharing a house with Sparky's ex, one of the Northern Cheyenne women of the Little Big Man family. She and I stood together with Dennis Banks at a Bear Lincoln rally in Round Valley. We told the assembled NA's there about our Heartlands Project. Now God's told me the Vision of CJ is coming to earth through the Little Big Man line because salvation is of the Jews..

I get periodic updates from the dna company I used to trace my Jewish ancestry and my mother's side is filled with Eastern European and Central Asia names and Ashkenazi genes, even some Sephardic ones showing up. There's no way on earth now anyone can prove I am not Jewish by ancestry through my mother's side of the family. But for all of that I now know why Jesus came down so hard on Jews and Pharisees in the New Testament.
 
and you are??
 
oh yeah, Eric. Almost forgot..
 
Eric, you would do well to read the Gospel of John because it contains the clearest reasons why Jesus found his fellow Jews so wanting in spiritual consciousness and Pharaisic Judaism so anti-God. It explains my hostility to that religion as I too carry the same spiritual information as Jesus re why you can't serve two masters at the same time without dishonoring one or the other.
 
As for why I support Johanna's candidacy when she is a Republican and I am a liberal Democrat? I know her, she is an honest forthright person and not a bullshitter and will do what is necessary to help her 2nd District community survive in these economically stressful times. Because both Clif and Estelle have put their campaigns into the hands of political activists who have demonstrated a great lack of empathy for traditional Democratic values like support for the poor and working person vs. our HCDCC and Local Solutions' support of petite bourgeousie(sp) against job-creating economic developers.
 
The passage is from Matthew Stephen.
 
I know that but I want Eric to read John because John explains what I'm about. For those wanting to see a preview chapter from my book Biomystical Christianity about the Vision of Christ Josephine, please go to my new blog site at: http://stephensgospel.blogspot.com/
 
gambling for god...

wow, stevie's really gone off the deep end now.
 
Zeus enlightened Eric with a powerful jolt

When he parted Stephens hair with a lightning bolt

Now an overflow of words from the Prophet's mouth

And SoHum Parlance is headed south


Stephen Lewis is Buster Luce

He's bustin' loose, he's got the juice


He wants to tell you about the Goddess, Christ Josephine

And reveal to you what no eye has ever seen

Her beauty is exquisite, her gnosis sublime

But, she is beyond perception of mortal minds
 
Not so. I and my daughter are mortals and we are not the only people either to see visions of Ptsan Win, White Buffalo Calf Woman. I know another person who saw Her and she started a 7 Step spiritual quest program for the 7 ceremonies of WBCW.

And Zeus? Hate to break it to ya but Zeus is really Hay Soos.
 
What cliff has no interest in the law? WTF >He is going to be possible supervisor and he has no regard or doesn't care for election law ?This is really scary if this is who he really is danger this guy is only in it for his agenda and has no one but himself in mind .What About His Non Organic Growing Practices ?
 
Not to worry. Clif's got Eric, the world's legal expert on everything as his handler to feed him politically correct lines to speak. And don't you worry your little head about Clif's poison bug spray. Eric will "explain" how poisoned apples are really good for you.
 
White Buffalo Calf Woman, my foot. You probably saw Buffalo Wallow Woman, and you were too high to tell the difference.
 
You are a hybrid liberal democrat/conservative republican, Stephen. Who the hell could ever trust you? You sold out liberal democrats a long time ago, way before you threw your support to Johanna Rodoni. You are as much a liberal democrat as Dennis Kucinich is a neo-con Republican.
 
and not all that long ago stephen was saying "go estelle, i'd vote for you", and was bragging about how estelle came to his house and asked for his support? that scares the sh-t out of me about estelle's judgement. and estelle was a spoiler the first time 'round, what will be so different this time? estelles power base was split because of her position on ROTR/pp and the side she chose. she will never get enough votes because there are people in sohum who would NEVER vote for estelle, no matter what. if Johanna wins,it will be thanks to estelle.
 
Zeus is really Hay Soos and Hay Soos is really the Christ Jesus and Stephen Lewis/Buster Luce is his Prophet and political Neo-con-man backing Johanna Rodoni while spreading negative propaganda about Estelle. Yes, it all makes perfect sense, now. Christ! What an insane idiot!
 
Stephen is spreading negative propaganda about Clif and Estelle. What an ass you are Prophet.
 
"negative propaganda"= truth. Deal with it. Clif sprays his apples and we all know it. They're not organically grown. But spin away or call names. I'm voting for Johanna.
 
Why? Because I want someone to represent me who is her own person and not a trojan horse for a group of anti-corporate political activists. I should say "selectively" anti-corporate, because if your for Bob's corporation that has been busy gobbling up as much land as possible to "develop" for profit meaning good bye wildlife ecology and hello rural yuppies with a holier-than-thou attitude sending their army of activists against the local population and their means of economic support.
 
Stephen, White Buffalo Calf Woman is Satan.
 
No, She's Christ Josephine, the Daughter of God and true Bride of Christ Jesus. Satan is what the Christs overcome with their teachings and example in order to save humanity.
 
My Father has taught me there is no "Father" with a Mother. The Mother has been missing from the Abrahamic religions. The Holy One is correcting the deficiency in the true Godhead which is, if you read the accounts, is an "Us", not an "I". Until She is restored to Her proper place at the left hand of the Creator, there will be no peace on earth, no goodwill to humankind.
 
Oh Stephen, you're falling into the Greek trap. How many gods do you worship now Stephen? Well, you worship youself, 'god', the Holy Spirit, oh and that Jesus guy. And apparently you think Hades is now called Satan. Now Josephine. I know I am missing many more.

Just how many gods do you worship Stephen? How are you being in any way monotheistic?

Stephen=false prophet=harbinger of the Anti-Christ.
 
Anti-corporate political activists. Anti this, anti that, anti Stephens repugnant blat. Who has peyote, Give Stephen Peyote. Make him go away. He wants to go on a magical mystery tour, today. Help us Jesus, help us Zeus, bring peyote buttons for Stephen's use. And the Buffalo Wallow Woman to mop his brow. Bring Stephen peyote buttons. Being them now.
 
Is Christ Josephine, White Buffalo Calf Woman? Is the White Buffalo the Indian equivalent of the Godhead? Is White Buffalo Calf woman his daughter? Is their an Indian equivalent to Jesus? Aren't they all the same gods and goddesses that have come down through history? Have you discovered something new Stephen? Or is this a replay of what has gone before? When do you think Christ Josephine/White Buffalo Calf Woman will come back and where has she been? What relationship does she have to Sophia?
 
Very few apples are organically grown. Most people will buy those perfect looking insecticide sprayed, glossy looking apples that you can find in the grocery store - shipped from South American producers in the winter time. Unfortunately that and market pressure to sell to grocery store chains in the volume that they demand has driven many small orchards out of business. If Clif was poisoning anyone he would not be in business long.
 
..."the true Godhead which is, if you read the accounts, is an Us, not an I. Until she is restored to her proper place at the left hand of the Creator, there will be no peace on earth, no goodwill to mankind."

Ok, that creates more questions than it answers. So the true Godhead is a duality of male/female. If she is to be restored then there was a time before she left. Why did she leave in the first place? Why was she gone so long? If she coming back, how long will she stay this time? What does she have to do with peace on earth and goodwill to men? Did we have something to do with her leaving that made God mad at us? If we have her where is she? And if you know where she is are you going to tell God?
 
Why do ferries have wings with no feathers? Who gives a rats ass! Make it up as you go along. Just like Stephen.
 
Everything I know about Christ Josephine can be read here: http://stephensgospel.blogspot.com/ except the new information closing in on where She will manifest on earth.

Christ Josephine is part of the Western Wakan revelations. Wakan Tanka is the equivalent of EL Elyon in the Holy Land. Both represent the Creator and both have icons of white bulls, the white bull of heaven (Book of Enoch) for EL.

It was EL Elyon who woke me up out of my spiritual slumber at Easter, in 1979, but that happened after I had meditated on things most every afternoon sitting on the hillside above our homesite and staring out across the valleys to Bear Butte. In 2003, I found out about the Lakota traditions of White Buffalo Calf Woman, 5 years after I had the Vision of Christ Josephine in 1998. I had heard of the White Buffalo legend before but didn't know much about it because I wasn't interested. The Near East was where "my" spiritual roots lay. Then in 2003, the Signs started coming in, learn CJ is a match for WBCW, learn my blond white son-in-law is an 8th Lakota and direct descendant of Sitting Bull so my grandkids make me Lakota kin.

White Buffalo Calf Woman came as an Ishtar-type warrior maiden Goddess the first time around. She gave the Lakota their 7 sacred ceremonies in order to live right and have abundancy. She is a Savior, She save the Lakota from starving. She brought the buffalo and horses.

But Christ Josephine is a transformed White Buffalo Calf Woman. WBCW's Lakota name is Ptsan Win and in my vision of Christ Josephine She bears much in common with Kwan Yin, the Asian Goddess of Mercy. A name change in Near Eastern religious texts often denotes the transformation of someone after being chosen by the Creator.

As for Sophia? She is always there too as Wisdom personified. But the Creator desires that we restore the Holy Family in heaven in order to restore the human family on earth, society in embryo. The Creator is returning a Great Goddess to the Godhead, actually two: a Great Mother, Asherah or the Tree of Life, as well as Her daughter, who Jesus actually takes on many of Ishtar's spiritual jobs, such as going down into the Abyss for three days to save her/his godly/human friends. And we all know Ishtar birthday at Easter is well celebrated with Her raisin cakes as Christian hot-cross buns. Her Star, the Morning Star, Venus, is Jesus' star as well as well as White Buffalo Calf Woman's.

Is God throwing out monotheism? The intolerant and very false Abrahamic variety, yes, indeed. Strict Monotheism is the source of puritanism and puritanism and violence go hand in glove in history. The Abrahamic intolerant religionists are responsible for an untold number of millions of unnecessary deaths through their bloody historical march through time and the world that is still going on today.

What is God then? I've known for well over a decade but didn't know I really knew until a few days ago. I am in another one of my periodic episodes of spiritual epiphanies and am keeping track of this new set because the new stuff's already changed my religion. When the current wave of visions stop I will tell you what I've learned.
 
Stephen, is it possible your visions are being induced by the anti-christ? Or perhaps you yourself are the anti-christ foretold in Revelations?
 
No, because I know my Father and my Mother and therefore know what it would be to be against Them, against the Holy Family. And I have no intention of hanging around Israel after my assignment is accomplished. The Old World is not my home. The New World is. But God has built a bridge between the two now and I walk both places.
 
I am not sent in any other's name but the name of my Father which is Jesus. Jesus sent me to tell you the truth. I did not have the truth until Father Jesus told me it and I speak what I have heard from my Father.
 
Every day, they pour in, this new set of revelations and God-guided research items backing up the spiritual truths. This is why I can't tell you yet what has happened because it's going on right now. God's creating a New Gospel right here in river city.
 
Stephen, I think you should read a book called "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. It may possibly be the truth you seek.
 
These are the End Times of atheism as well as the traditional Abrahamic religions.

God destroyed atheism and brought religion into the world at the beginning through synchronicity events no one could explain away other than as the intervention of a spiritual reality in our material world.

Synchronicity events continue on everyday regardless of what atheists believe. Test what I say. Ask your friends, ask your relatives if any of them have ever had a series of unexplainable "coincidences" happen that startled them.

Synchronicity events and near-death-experiences are the "seams" in material reality where God let's us glimpse the intervention of a spiritual world. Science cannot explain synchronicity events, doesn't even believe they exist but all one has to do is ask your friends or relatives if they've ever had these strange experiences of coincidences that continually happen in people's lives that continue to defy laws of probability.
 
Synchronicity events were called "Signs" in olden times.
 
There goes another discussion. Stephen, go away. It was so pleasant not having to skip your posts.
 
?Stephen, is it possible you are supplying the meaning of these coincidences? I mean, coincidences happen all the time. Have you ever heard of something called "Confirmation Bias" which is scientifically backed up? It pretty much blows synchronicity out of the water.
 
Yes, I have and nothing "blows synchronicity out of the water". It isn't about seeing all the red ford cars when you've got a red ford car. It's about Signs from God that cannot be duplicated by any human means. I could give examples of synchronicity events I have experienced that no way in hell could it be a matter of predisposed focus that ignores the non-synchronicity stuff.

You think Carl Jung and all those psychologists who followed his lead would waste their time on nonsense?
 
Jung was also into astrology and the occult. And later in life fancied himself a prophet of god, much as you have. The bottom line is there is no scientific basis for Synchronicity just as there is none for astrology. It is completely subjective and is reliant on confirmation bias of the subject. This is an irrational belief system.

I know you say your synchronistic events are nothing like the red ford truck. But I think you're intelligent. I think Stephen, deep down you know that your religious synchronistic events were indeed just like noticing all the red ford trucks on the freeway. You refuse to admit it however.
 
Stephen, were you aware that high levels of dopamine (a chemical) have been linked to people who perceive synchronisity events, ghosts and other related mind-phenomena? This is scientific fact. I just hope to add some rationality in your thought process. You are an intelligent person, but you seem to have abandoned reason.
 
If I've abandoned reason with my belief in God and spiritual reality, so then did Einstein and most of humanity's intellectual and moral leaders.

Atheists think that everyone is spiritually disabled like themselves who haven't experienced spiritual phenomena. They don't realize they are exactly like a man blind to color telling those who see colors there are none to see.
 
Except that the man who can see color could verify that fact scientifically.

Stephen, it is more akin to you trying to convince people that goblins and ferry's live in your shoes. Time and again science beats you back into a corner and exposes your irrational belief system.

Wasn't there yet another tablet discovered that exposes the fact that Jesus' mythology was quite common and not exclusive to Christians or even Jews? Yes, at least 1500 years before this Jesus supposedly walked the Earth there were already stories of men who turned water into wine and rose from the dead. Ever heard of Dionysus Stephen? If that doesn't shake your belief to it's core, nothing will. The story of Dionysus, or more importantly when it was told, simply turns the story of Jesus Christ as one of the gods a ridiculous notion.

This is historical record. You cannot deny it Stephen.
 
Time and again science beats you back into a corner

That's your bias confirmation induced hallucination. Your gods, rational thought, logic, and science are masculine gods. But happily the worship of science as the almighty macho dominating truth is falling away. The feminine is returning as an equal to the masculine. This is a fundamental aspect of the new cycle we are now entering. With Her comes the recognition that judgments based on feelings are just as valid as judgments made by intellectualizing.
 
You will not get any argument from me that Christianity is another Mystery Religion because it is. It's only difference is, it contains the core spiritual truth while the pagan mystery religions did not and fell away. The core spiritual truth will be carried forward in one form or another because the Father never leaves humanity without the saving knowledge embedded in some then or current religious tradition. Jesus found the saving knowledge within his Torah traditions with the help of his upbringing in Egypt where great magic was centered. God chose Jesus as the bearer of the Son of Man information that saves humankind. This information is not known to science, nor to Judaism or Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and sadly, it's not known by Pauline Christianity. Only Gnostic Christianity knew the saving knowledge, so all these years Paul's mistaken revision of Jesus' teachings have kept Christianity and Christians from becoming what God intended--the foundation of humanity that makes it to the end of days.
 
And, yes, the time has come to restore balance to the Godhead that has been out of whack ever since the Abrahamics booted Her out of their heaven. They left Sophia in, barely, as Shekkina in Hebrew tradition and Sophia, Wisdom, in Greek-speaking Jewish tradition. But Sophia can never reach the ground and walk around as a woman which must be done to establish spiritual authority and power for Her in heaven in the Christ mystery tradition. Feminists looking for restoration of Sophia as highest Goddess will be disappointed. Humankind needs an earthier spiritual Mother model if that can make any sense to you, one who gives birth in the human way.

God is a "We", a Holy Family, Elohim where EL presides over a pantheon of gods and goddesses, as is stated in Genesis. Yahweh is His son and Israel is his portion given the sons of God. Yahweh forgot who he was until Jesus remembered for him and re-established the proper relationship of Son to Father. Now Jesus is Father and EL is Grandfather in the new pantheon model of the Holy Family.
 
There's a big reason why a Holy Family is being restored and not a single God. That is the real Christian Mystery of who this God is who is represented by "the Father" throughout the Abrahamic traditions and Jesus, but who now also represented by "the Mother".

God is balancing the sexual representative for a holy marriage, a hierogamos, that now will include "the Mother" as it already does in Catholicism giving Catholicism its lasting strength even when it's otherwise in full disagreement with Jesus' teachings, especially the one commanding Christians not to call anyone on earth their "Father".

The Pope is anti-Christ as every Protestant is taught for railroading Christians away from Jesus' teachings. But so then are all of Paul's followers, the vast majority of Christians. And so were the Pharisee Jews in Jesus' time and today along with Muslims, all against the spiritual truth Jesus brought us that has been lost again and again.
 
Stephen, correct me where I'm wrong, or clarify - Gnostic Christianity has it's roots in earlier gnostic spiritual traditions that have roots going farther back than written history - maybe to mankind's earliest spiritual experiences. All religions and their churches, synagogues and mosques are just window dressing that substitute written mythology for true spirituality for the majority of people. Historically there were spiritual guides - teachers who would initiate a few adept students at a time. Today most religions are no longer informed by gnostic spiritual prophecy and have stagnated.
 
The most ancient of ancient prophesy says that She's coming back as an albino crocodile. Nobody knows the time or place. She may very well come out of your faucet... at first, she's no larger than a drop of water. She looks kind of like a miniature white lizard, quite harmless I suppose. But then, Stephen, she starts growing --she is suddenly six feet long in six seconds flat. She devours your drink. Her teeth flashing, She looks you straight in the eye.
 
I can only say for myself but the way God converted this former atheist was through what I later came to understand as Gnosis even though, like Paul, I went through my three days of spiritual awakening, my own being three days of non-stop synchronicity experiences that my science-oriented mind could not fathom how they were happening. One right after the other for three days, and by the third day I was a believer in God as what all the
"signs" were about were biblical themes, but coupling them to my own life. This took place over Easter of 1979. Since then I've periodically gone through these epiphanies, major and minor but all in a set theme that in 1980 I learned was Gnostic. But modern Gnosis, more like Jung's but now this last batch has changed even that around.

I've written all my religious visions and revelations and God-guided research over the years in a book called "Biomystical Christianity". But since the month before end of last year when I got the cancer out of my body, the same type that killed my father, Father Jesus came to me personally for the first time.

Oh, I had plenty of spiritual relationship before that with God, but it was always through synchronicity events, signs that would reveal a spiritual or even a foundational historical truth that gradually built up "Biomystical Christianity" as a new modern Gnostic theology. But God never spoke to me with a voice, (I thanked God for that--not wanting to actually hear God's voice in my head--too many psycho movies I guess..) and never any direct contact with Jesus. I followed EL Elyon, God Most High and His Spirit of Christ manifested in the Story of Jesus. No personal relationship with Jesus for this Christian for 28 years, no spiritual (mental) voice of Jesus in my head like other Christians had. But plenty of spiritual information.

All that's changed with the voice of Father Jesus and this new understanding of who God is, what God is. Amazing stuff. I will have my old BC book up and the new Climax Christianity (nice uncontroversial name like everything else God load's on my plate, thank you very much) up online soon as this newest series of revelations stops. Slowed today with company around. I need to find intellectual Christians to tell them this new stuff who will understand it as I tried out on my Fundie friend today and blank stare and no wanting to go there plainly on her face as I spilled out the New Gospel to her.

Oh well, what's new..

actually. PLENTY!
 
The bottom line is there is no scientific basis for Synchronicity just as there is none for astrology. It is completely subjective and is reliant on confirmation bias of the subject.

Everything we know is subjective, in that it comes to us through our mind. Yes, the subjective can distort things. But so can the "facts" as perceived by someone, which they always are. Even an atomic particle's behavior is distorted by the fact gatherer.
 
OK Stephen, you have lost this Atheist. You do seem to accept the evidence that the story of Jesus is simply that, a mythological holdover. And then you retreat (Hence science beating you back into a corner), you retreat into this wonderful world of the basic tenents of the story being a truth which predates history and the archealogical record. Which is fine. Perhaps you have found a safe spot from which science can no longer challenge your belief system as being factually correct. Good luck on convincing others that you are a prophet, who knows, maybe you will find success.


With Her comes the recognition that judgments based on feelings are just as valid as judgments made by intellectualizing.

Sad. I mean really. You're advocating a return to the dark ages! Have you ever cracked open a history text? At least Stephen has, you Anon, appear to have no idea what you're advocating.
 
No silly, nobody is advocating for a return to the dark ages, as if that were possible. What I'm saying is that with the turning of the cosmic cycle the feminine is now returning to her equal place in heaven and on earth. Along with that comes a reanimating of feeling, passion, intuition and emotion, balancing out the dominance of rational scientific thought which dominated the West in the cycle that is now closing.
 
And your evidence for this "cosmic cycle" is....?
 
Look 9:55 there is very little that separates you and Mr. Lewis. You both operate off of a system that excludes rational exchange. Thus you can be a follower of whatever religion you follow, and Steve Lewis can claim to be a prophet of a whole new order. I really see very little difference. Or you could claim to be wanting to take a ride on a comet or that gnomes and elves live in your shoes. The differences are really unimportant. Why? Because you cannot distinguish between them. They are all crap ideas born out of irrationality and lazy thought processes.

And a return to the dark ages is exactly what you represent. Heres an idea, pick up a history book! Why was it called the "DARK" ages? Did god blot out the sun? Maybe that possibility will peak your interest.
 
Now now, there there, don't let your negative emotions overcome you. Not to worry. The goddess blesses you and assures you that nobody is advocating for elves and gnomes to move into your shoes.
 
"Lazy thought processes", anon 10:19? "Dark Ages"? Perhaps in your own education you've failed to learn that you yourself are operating under a paradigm that almost guarantees lack of holistic comprehension which is really what this Goddess business stands for. You post in a classic Apollonian style, linear, goal-oriented thinking with nice sharply defined laws while not recognizing any validity for the Dionysian p.o.v. showing up here with the Goddess comments and my revelatory news which you can't recognize as having any value because these things aren't readily measurable. This is the mark of a left-brain dominated person. There is a right brain hemisphere and sometimes it's really developed in some people who do have spiritual experiences and are not crazy. In fact, bicameral unification and holistic consciousness demands good access to both sides of one's brain in order to comprehend whole systems and how they interact in complex ecologies.

Try it out. Try thinking you might be missing something instead of thinking others are in a dark age. Darkness may be in the eye of the beholder.
 
Steven, do you think that the return of Christ Josephine coincides with Biblical Revelations, the coming of the anti-Christ, and the reign of peace? Do you see the lining up of predicted events of other spiritual traditions?
 
Most definitely. But, and it's a big one, the way in which the prophesies unfold in reality may be much different from how the ancients imagined. And of course, not all prophesies come true, thank God!

I have been guided by Ariel the Lion of God for 28 years until Father Jesus took over directly at the end of last year.

If you check with Salmon Creek people and others who knew me when I lived in SoHum you would know I went by the name of Ariel for 14 years there before going back to my God-given Christian name-the name I had rebelled from-my father's name and world. Being a double Aquarius, taken a good "non-biblical" hippie Aquarian name, Ariel, the good air spirit in Shakespeare's The Tempest and name of one of the moons of Aquarius' planetary ruler, Uranus. Four years later I go through my religious conversion experience and find out all about Ariel, old Jewish angel name meaning the Lion of God, Angel of Jerusalem,(see Isaiah 29) Messenger of Peace, hearth of the Altar of God. Ariel is also the Lion of Judah referred to in Revelation who can open the scroll and reveal the secrets, which I can.

Here's an example of just how wrong people have take biblical symbolism in Revelation.

"Armageddon" is the Greek word for the ancient Canaanite name for Meggido, a town and valley in ancient Israel and site of still more ancient pharaoh Tutmoses III's conquering of the Canaan confederation that created a power vacuum which Hebrew/Israelites tribes filled. The town and valley of Meggido is itself named after the Canaanite pantheon, or Divine Assembly, a title that shows up clearly in Hebrew some Psalms, e.g. 82. EL Elyon ruled the Divine Assembly as God Most High. The Hebrew equivalent term for the Canaanite one for Divine Assembly is "Elohim", where EL presides over the other gods and goddesses. (like Yahweh, one of EL's sons, which I'll get into later..)

Back to Armageddon. When you research and know that Armageddon originally meant the Divine Assembly before the physical place of battle, when you research the Canaanite people's way of worshiping EL vs the Hebrew's makeover of EL into Yahweh, you discover a hidden meaning--EL vs
Yahweh, the Armageddon Choice. Who do you worship as the God Most High, EL or Yahweh? Especially when you research and discover Yahweh started off in his god life as Yamm, who's icon is none other that that of the Beast from the sea. Believe me, it gets worse..people have really no idea what Revelation symbolizes, only wild guesses because so few have researched the archeological facts based history which EL through His angel Ari-EL, leeds me to discover.
 
I urge every Christian, every believer in God Most High to find out how God Most High was imagined by his earliest worshipers in the Promised Land of Canaan. EL is the oldest male deity worshiped on earth that we know of--6000 BC altar found to EL in Syria (I think its Syria-might be Lebanon). Canaanites loved EL who while a distant God who ruled Creation through the lower gods and goddesses. Israel was Yahweh's portion, Yahweh then in the Canaanite Pantheon, "Armageddon" in Greek.

EL was called "The Compassion One" which shows up in both Hebrew and Muslim appellations for God, but does "The Kindly One, the Friendly One", do these show up? Nope. Canaanites did not fear their God Most High, they loved Him and He loved them back because He was the One they went to to ask for forgiveness of their sins which He seems to have readily forgiven them with no recorded savage commandments of absolute obedience to EL or else that marks Yahweh worship recorded that I know of. EL was "Daddy" to the Canaanites and EL was "Daddy", "Abba" to Jesus.

The Canaanites get a really undeserved bad rep by in Judeo-Christianity because Canaanites were the Palestinians of yester-yon, the "evil people", the terrorists who just happen to be the native population of the land that ancient Hebrews wanted to take over guide by their tribal war god, Yahweh, pulling a Lucifer switcheroo that has pulled the wool of the Lamb over Jews and Pauline Christians alike for over 2500 years.

God is resurrecting the truth in our times. The Canaanites where also known as Phoenicians, both names deriving from "purple", the purple dye Phoenicians used as their main trade item with other nations. Trading nations aren't usually much into war and Phoenicians weren't known for their wars and neither was their God Most High.
 
Christ Josephine is "out of the blue" in the Judeo-Christian tradition like She was for me in my vision of Her in 1998. She is an insertion by God of an Archetype lost in the Holy Land since the Abrahamics destroyed the ancient Canaanite pantheon. Astarte, (Ishtar), one of the Triple Goddesses, daughter of Asherah, is a Warrior Maiden goddess and so was Ptsan Win, White Buffalo Calf Woman. WBCW brings fire from heaven down upon a Lakota unwise young scout who tries to rape Her and fries his ass setting the example for Lakota men every after to respect their women. But She's also a Savior promising in prophesy to Return, just like Jesus, who too, even though male, carries a lot of Ishtar's iconic baggage, e.g. Morning Star, e.g Resurrection at Easter, Ishtar's celebration day.

But like Yahweh is symbolically cleansed of violence through Jesus' sacrifice of power for love of humanity, so too White Buffalo Calf Woman has been "born again" and now showing Kwan Yin, Goddess of Mercy attributes and not goddess of war ones. She does know about war and the role it plays in male society but She directs men to sports as an outlet for their war competition for territory-leaving peace outside the sports arena.
 
"Near Eastern Mythologies" by Prof. John Gray, a professor of Semitics languages in Palestine and in England, is the place to learn how Canaanites worshiped EL.
 
Name changes in characters in religious texts often signify a change of gods.
 
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