Wednesday, October 29, 2008


Trinity county repeals its marijuana law

Citing abuse from commercial growers. From the Redding Record:
Citing public safety issues, the Trinity County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday repealed a year-old ordinance that allowed medical marijuana users to exceed state limits on how much marijuana residents could grow and keep.

After a public hearing at the Veterans Hall in Weaverville, the board voted unanimously to repeal the ordinance that was passed last fall.

"What we adopted last year ruined the fabric of the county," said Supervisor Wendy Reiss, who voted for the ordinance last year.

I've said this before, but I strongly suggest that medical marijuana advocates find some way to address rather than dismiss all of these concerns. That's a backlash now in two of the "emerald triangle" counties. According to the article, most of the speakers supported the repeal.

Oh yeah. Comments like that will turn it around.
Clif wants to legalize marijuana.
This could be a big bomb.

Estelle supports medical marijuana the book. Sensible and cautious.
Wrong blog to be making that argument 11:15. If you really are an Estelle supporter.
It's too bad that a few bad seeds spoil the rest of the crop.
"And God said, 'See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of the all the earth..."

-Genesis 1:29

If you really believe in God, no man-made law can take away your right to what God has given you. God gave us the herb. We even have brain receptors adapted already to receive its goodness.
Johanna also supports legalization.
God gave us poison oak too, Stephen, care to smoke any of that?
This is a courageous step by Trinity county. The growers are criminals and they have ruined this area. They need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

If you stand back and do nothing and hope they will go away, you better be ready for drug addicted children and a soaring homicide rate.
Poison oak is a beautiful plant. Our kids called it "love oak" so they wouldn't get reaction to it when walking along trails where it was growing. It worked for them and it's worked for me too but I wouldn't throw myself in a patch of it although I'd love to have it growing around the house for its Fall colors.

Amazing comment above mine in this day and age and community. Reefer Madness is still alive and well in some people's minds..
Stephen, are you aware that one-third of the population is not allergic to poison oak? And that the more you are exposed to it, eventually you will also become immune?

This is not God Stephen. And you know it.

Come out of the closet Stephen. We all know you're an Atheist.
I used to get poison oak bad when I was a kid, then I spent a year doing forestry work and walked through it constantly. Even though it itched like crazy for the first few months, I kept calling it "love oak" and now I don't get it at all. It's a miracle!
The medical marijuana patients need to organize and lobby their supervisors, support people who are arrested, and most importantly be sure that the public understands what the law actually allows. Most arrests in backlash Mendocino county, for example, are of people who are not breaking the law. The backlash is fed by irresponsible journalism and law enforcement who never liked legal medical marijuana anyway. They can't be ignored, the must be countered.
So what's the standard SoHum stance these days, legalize or not?

To legalize may lower the price on which much of the economy rests.

Not to legalize means people keep getting arrested and lives interfered with by government agencies.

Is medical marijuana the happy medium that SoHum generally agrees on? Or the law that attorneys can use to get arrested growers off the hook?

Nobody bash me for asking this, I really want to know.

I am a displaced SoHum gal myself with family still there. I relatively neutral feelings toward marijuana in general, although stoned people do bore the crap out of me. Politically, I think it should be completely legalized because it's illegality and its inflated black-market value create social problems for the community.
Ed, your patronizing view of the Mendocino voters leaves much to be desired. Maybe they knew what they were voting for and against. Medical marijuana had its chance and you let the dorks blow it for everyone.
Ed - the media may be overblowing some of the problems, but more than half of the Mendocino County voters went to the polls and overturned a measure they'd overwhelmingly passed a few years earlier. That doesn't happen because of a few newspaper articles. The industry is unregulated, and the problems are mounting. I think it can be turned around, but don't dismiss the voters' concerns or we're going to pay the price.
We already are paying the price, especially those of us with ruined children. Some have dead children.

Hey, try taking a walk in "your" hills this time of the year. Try some star gazing up the the hills. Let us know if you live through it.

All this courtesy of the pot industry.
Rose..what does "linked" mean?
"The industry is unregulated, and the problems are mounting. I think it can be turned around, but don't dismiss the voters' concerns or we're going to pay the price."

Rose..what does "linked" mean?

It means she has a post on her blog linking to this thread, in case you'd like to join her conversation there. Usually she has some lively discussions on these topics, so you might want to pay her a visit.
Did anyone hear Darryl Cherney's new folk lament on the state of the Humboldt Nation broadcast on KMUD this morning?

It seems the answer to all of the problems of the Humboldt Nation, the hospital issue, the Supervisor issue, the ROTR issue etc, is as stated in the repeating chorus; to spark a bowl and pass it around.

Well, there you go. Marijuana isn't the problem, it's the answer.

And not so many years ago, so was running liquor stills in the Smokey Mountains to make "Grandma's Medicine"

Or, Dr. Singley's Cordial Elixir of Siam Cure-All with dubious amounts of alcohol as the "medicinal" treatment.

Snake Oil is Snake Oil no matter who pitches it's usefulness in a modern-era version of a traveling medicine show.

Oh, but it sure does bring in an awful lot of money. On this, we can all agree.
Yeah, the growers are getting filthy rich, while the rest of us pay the price.

Spare me the tales of how they have propped up a few money laundering storefronts in Garberville. They are a costly burden for us all, especially those of us with children.

They are nothing more than armed terrorists who have stolen our own countryside. If it takes a military intervention to get rid of them, so be it.
Yep Ekovox, I'd say it was reggae. I happened to catch only the last few minutes of the tune. Figured I had missed the political "call to action" part of it.

Now I know, there was no political message at all. What was the chorus line again? Something like Humboldt's sufferin'? What does that mean?

Anyway , there are drinking songs and now pot smoking songs too. Level playing field. Getting intoxicated is more fun when you're singing.
Yeah, let's get stoned and shoot some "straight" person.
"The backlash is fed by irresponsible journalism and law enforcement who never liked legal medical marijuana anyway. They can't be ignored, the must be countered."

Ed, I hate to disagree with you, but I happen to live in Mendocino County, and the backlash was largely fed by the rampant abuse of our public lands and poisoning of our creeks, which has nothing to do with "medical marijuana." I can't take a hike on the public lands up the road from me, because there have been several industrial-size busts, and there's no f*%#@!g way I'm going up there unless accompanied by a large group. That's pretty screwed up, you know?

As for law enforcement, Allman has always been supportive of medical marijuana. What he DOESN'T support is the continued rape of our public lands, as evidenced by huge operations all over BLM, State Parks, and National Parks holdings.

Legalize it already, kill the black market, don't give industrial growers and cartels any reason to keep abusing our public lands, and quit it with the "medical marijuana" cover. Yes, it's extremely beneficial for a number of people suffering from diseases such as cancer. But the reality is, the majority of us use it for recreational purposes, just like we drink red wine to loosen up and not just clear our arteries. It's way, WAY past time we act like adults about it.
The growers who argue for legalization do so because they know it won't happen. In reality, they hope to sabotage law enforcement efforts to close them down.

If pot should be legalized, then the cops are wrong to bust the growers.

The growers want to be left alone to poison our creeks and our children. And bury their profits in glass jars.
9:44, this is 11:25. I'm not a grower, but I know plenty of people who are, and quite a few of them are very, very disheartened about what's become of the idyllic community they attempted to create in their youthful naïveté. They didn't see what was coming back in the late 60's or early 70's, when they started this whole thing (although they should have, given the history of alcohol prohibition), and now they're in way too deep to dig themselves out. That, and they've created their own status quo - which is every bit as fierce and calcified as that of the local culture that they did battle with for decades - and social convention mandates that they keep acting like it's okay, even though it's far, far from okay.

I do believe another benefit of legalization would be to completely blow the whole "outlaw romanticism" of marijuana growing, which has been bullshit for a good 25 years now. Liquor's regulated and taxed, and everyone with half a brain knows a little bit is good for you but too much will kill you. Why can't we do the same for marijuana (although no one's ever died from marijuana poisoning)?
9:44, I think you've very accurately and honestly described the cynical rationale of growers toward legalization. It puts the average decent person into a conflict, wanting to report activities that do harm to the community but not wanting to help enforce unfair laws. And the money coming in just makes it easier to not do the right thing.

I'll add that its also consistent with the agenda to have laws enforced against others but not against them. Attributing all drug realted violence to the "Mexican cartels" while dismissing the more common violence associated with the "little guy" is also part of their strategy. Its actually very simple, prosecute anyone but me.

And 11:25 I agree with you too, in principle. But until legalization comes about, there is every good reason to suppress the profit based criminality associated with marijuana growing. In fact, by showing they have respect for law, proponents of legalization will advance their cause much better than by trying to justify the actions of "outlaws". Yes to Civil disobedience. No to criminal enterprise.
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